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EVELYN LI THE DAILY ILLINI Students talk to potential employers at the ACES Career Fair at the ARC on Oct. 6. Brooks Berish advises students to wear business apparel and to practice their elevator speeches to appear confident to employers.
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ith so many students attending career fairs at the University, employers don’t have time for those who come unprepared. Being prepared can mean many different things when it comes to career fairs, from wearing the right thing to simply practicing your elevator-pitch. All of these small preparations add up to not only boost your confidence when walking into the job arena, but also to elevate your chances of landing a job. I am a conservative person when it comes to professional attire because I know that the classics never go out of style, with a few exceptions (plaid suit, I’m talking about you). I went with the all-black suit, white button-down shirt, black dress shoes, and a minimally-patterned blue tie. You can veer from this traditional look, but just
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different things when it comes to career fairs, from wearing the right thing to simply practicing your elevator pitch.
have common sense about it. When you walk into the career fair, you will see a sea of black and navy blue, but, like I said, don’t feel restricted to just those choices if you’re feeling individualistic. In fact, your clothes can have the ability to set you apart from the rest of the crowd and make you more memorable. Though your clothing choice for the career fair is important, this isn’t a fashion show. Everyone is there in one way or another to get a job and establish connections. In order to expedite this process, it is imperative to have a polished and updated resume to distribute liberally at the career fair. This means you should have a number of printed resumes at your disposal and something to hold them in—preferably a black leather resume portfolio holder. That is the extent of what you need to bring with you physically, but with regards to actual preparation for the career fair, there is much more that needs to be done. First, it is important to go to the website of the career fair you are attending and find the list of companies that will have booths. Figure out which ones you will definitely want to talk to, and do some research. Find out what positions they are offering, learn more about the companies, and be prepared to ask lots of insightful questions. It’s perfectly acceptable to wander around to other companies as well, but you don’t want to sound disinterested or unprepared at those either. In order to avoid this, try to at least find out what the company does, and then be determined to express interest in finding out more when talking to them. Even if they aren’t
offering a position applicable to you, give them a resume and try to establish a connection for future reference. The elevator-pitch is a short 20-30 second introduction meant to give the employer or company representative an idea of who you are, what you do and why you’d be an ideal candidate. It is also the first impression that the company gets of the prospective employee, so the delivery is just as important as the actual content of the speech. It is essential to practice this speech before implementing it at a career fair. Find a mirror and fine-tune your pitch so that you exude confidence and sufficiently sum up yourself. The best pitches are the ones that persuasively sell the student without actually sounding like they are trying to sell the employer anything. I attended the business fair last semester, and I was prepared in some aspects, but unprepared in others, which led to an inconsistently successful experience. I hadn’t practiced my elevator pitch to a point of unconscious mastery, which led to me sounding competent to some employers and a little lost to others. I also hadn’t anticipated the long lines at some very popular companies so I felt pressed for time during my conversations and it may have shown. Even for the career fair veterans who have been going for years, there are always improvements to be made and valuable lessons to learn. The best that you can do is to prepare until you are fully confident in your ability to network and sell yourself.
berish2@dailyillini.com Brooks is a junior in Business.
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Applying to internships while studying abroad ANNABETH CARLSON Managing editor for online
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ast fall, I received the best news ever: I was accepted into a study abroad program in Barcelona, Spain. Immediately I started brushing up on my Spanish, planning how I would pack four months worth of clothes into one suitcase and planning out where else I would travel in Europe. In the middle of all of this preparation, however, I realized I would not be ready for one thing — getting a summer internship upon return. Luckily, I was able to secure a dream internship in New York, and many of my friends I studied abroad with had similar success. Here are five tips I’ve compiled to help make your internship search while overseas a bit more simple.
1. Apply early
This is probably my biggest piece of advice for any person studying abroad because I ended up getting an internship that I applied for in October. There are many online resources that list internships for any given field along with their application requirements and deadlines. For instance,
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Senior Annabeth Carlson explains how she secured a summer intership without sacrificing experiences while studying abroad. as a journalism major, I always check Poynter’s annual list of newspaper internships. There’s also I-Link, an online tool with job listings for almost every possible field and it allows employers to view
students’ resumes. There are also countless career fairs you can check out in the fall before leaving for a spring study abroad experience.
2. Make it work
If you are studying in Europe, Australia or beyond, obviously there is a huge time difference. This can make coordinating phone interviews and answering emails in a timely manner pretty
difficult. But even if the time frame or situation isn’t ideal, make the extra effort because it could pay off in your internship hunt. I lived in an apartment with terrible Wi-Fi, so anytime my friends had interviews, they would have to walk 25 minutes to our school so they could acquire a solid connection. This also meant doing interviews at a late hour, like 8 or 9 p.m. I even had a friend who had to coordinate a phone interview on Easter Sunday when she was visiting Milan. But since she was open to the interview, even though it was not at the most convenient time, it paid off and she got an offer.
employers love to hear about your travels and why you chose to study abroad, so make sure you give them a good reason that will resonate with them. For instance, you wanted to complete a minor in a different language, become more diverse in your perspectives or even volunteer in an underserved community. My boyfriend actually got a job as an English tutor for Spanish students while studying abroad. It helped him improve his Spanish for his minor and was a great talking point when interviewing on the phone for summer research positions back home.
3. Stay professional
Even if your prospects aren’t looking great, don’t dwell on it and enjoy the rare, lucky experience of studying abroad. When else will you be able to take off for four or five months of your life and travel? Take in the sights, learn as much as you can about a new culture and make new friends and memories. You’ll return to the U. S. as a more well-rounded and educated person, which will no doubt help you get internships and jobs in the future.
Phone interviews not your cup of tea? One of the perks of 21st-century technology is the invention of Skype. Potential employers can do video interviews, even across the world, and it will feel like everyone is in the same room. But this means you have to look presentable — make sure you squeeze in at least one professional outfit in your already packed suitcase.
4. Build your resume abroad
Studying abroad can actually be a great resume builder. Most
5. Relax and explore
Annabeth is a senior in Media. aecarls2@dailyillini.com
The importance of working part-time and summer jobs HARRISON LINDHOLM Columnist
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t can be difficult for students who are sure of their career aspirations, who have a dream job cemented into their psyche, to know what first steps to take to reach their goals. I believe that taking a low-level job or part-time job in the field you wish to go into is an excellent first step. By assuming a low-level job you are getting your foot in the door. Additionally, you are showing interest in the industry. You can learn a lot about how the
industry is run by being a cog in the machine. A waiter can easily learn about the restaurant business by simply observing the people around him. I know I have learned a lot about the complications of owning and renting apartments from my experience as a maintenance man doing odd jobs in an apartment complex. This means that when I begin my career in real estate investing, I will already have practical knowledge of it. This will put me at an advantage to those who have only been exposed to real estate within a classroom. Students who are not sure of
their future can also learn a lot from a summer job or from a job on campus. It is possible that you could find something that you are passionate about through a low-level job as well. More importantly, essential workplace values such as a good work ethic, an ability to work well with others and an understanding of how to interact with customers can be developed when working at any job. Although I do not currently have a job, I have learned a lot about the nature of work while in high school. I had a job at a pizzeria during my senior year. I answered the telephone, took orders,
made dressings and ran the cash register. On the surface, this job I had for only a year seems simple, but I gained many lifelong lessons from my experience. Every so often, a pizza would be made for a customer, and it would not be what he or she wanted. Whether that be pepperoni instead of sausage, or deep dish instead of thin crust, it would always annoy the customer (rightfully so). Unfortunately, it takes another thirty minutes to correct the order and make a replacement pizza. I quickly discovered how to address a disgruntled customer in the most respectful way
I could. I know this skill will be an advantage to me, no matter the career I pursue. In addition to skills that will help me in the workplace, my job at the pizzeria taught me a bit about life, which is something that high school and college has not. The other phone operators came from all walks of life. I worked with a diverse group, from other high school students like myself, to a man whose decisions and misfortunes had left him homeless. His part-time income from the pizza job was his entire income. Another worker had child support he had to pay. He was
working two jobs to cover his and his child’s living expenses. I saw economic disparity impacting the people I cared about. As I go through life, not only do I appreciate the situation I am in, but I have more sympathy for those who have less. Having a job that doesn’t directly push you ahead in your career is not a bad thing, but can help evolve you into a more complex and experienced person. I urge you to get a job if you haven’t had one. It will help you more than you can imagine.
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Nine tips for conducting a successful interview LAUREN SCAFIDI Staff writer
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here’s no doubt about it, interviews are stressful. How do you make a lasting impression on someone you just met to get hired for a job? Follow these nine steps to help you breeze through your best interview yet.
1. Prepare
Do your homework. Look up the history of the company — when it was started, who have the owners been and if this company or similar companies received media attention recently — so you appear interested in the field and company. Also do research on your interviewer if you’re able to obtain his or her name. Interviewers are fl attered when you’re able to, for example, make reference to a conference they spoke at recently.
2. Update your resume
Update your resume regularly to avoid forgetting to add any information. Include statistics, like “increased membership by 16%.”
3. Arrive early
Arriving early to an interview is an immediate show of good
time management, which is a valuable trait to any employer. Conversely, arriving late to an interview communicates that your time is more important than the interviewer’s.
4. Give a firm handshake
A fi rm handshake will show you are comfortable with yourself and, more importantly, confident. Look your interviewer in the eye when you shake hands and fl ash him or her a smile.
5. Brag about yourself
This is one of the few instances where it’s not only OK, but also encouraged to brag about yourself. Inform your interviewer of your past experience and redeeming qualities to show that you are a potential asset to his or her company.
6. Engage in conversation
Address your interviewer by his or her name every few questions. This will assure him or her you know exactly who you are talking to.
7. Ask questions
The end of an interview is typically signaled by the interviewer asking some variation of “do you have any questions for me?” Your answer should always be yes.
Ask him or her a question. You can inquire about what a typical day in the office looks like, or ask specific questions about things you already discussed, which will show that you were attentive during your interview. As the interview progresses, accumulate mental notes of the questions you will ask at the end.
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8. Thank them
Thank your interviewer with a handshake and smile before you leave, and express your excitement to hear back from them.
9. Follow-up
Write your interviewer a thank you email, or better, a handwritten note. Taking the extra time out of your day to say thank you again shows your eagerness for the job. Overall, be someone your interviewer will want to work with. You will likely spend more than 40 hours per week with your co-workers and your interviewer will want to hire someone he or she wouldn’t mind spending a lot of time with. Most importantly, remember to relax and just be yourself.
Lauren is a senior in Media. lscafid2@dailyillini.com
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t the beginning of August, like most University students, I was frantically trying to enjoy the last few days of summer while simultaneously preparing to return to campus in a few short weeks. Little did I know that in a few days, I was going to get offered my dream internship, along with the opportunity to live in New York City for the semester. I jumped at it, and three weeks later, was moving into my Manhattan apartment. Semester-length internships aren’t the norm at the University. Many shy away from exchanging a few hours of class a day for a full-time job. I only knew of one other student who had done one, and I was hesitant to change my lifestyle so drastically for the semester, but it ended up being the experience of
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For the new semester, I am going to better utilize the useful resources on campus, like the Career Center, to do resume reviews and to get interview help.
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friends and grow as an individual, like so many do abroad. Although initially intimidating, New York was an amazing place to live. The culture, hustle and atmosphere of New York City are second to none. Since it’s so different from Champaign-Urbana, it was a change of pace and felt exciting. The excitement of being able to go for a run through Central Park or take a stroll through Times Square on the weekends never wore off. Although atypical, my semester long internship was exactly what I needed to start my career off on the right foot, and I would recommend it to anyone who has the opportunity. A semester spent getting closer to my dream career and getting an abroad experience led to the best experience I could have asked for.
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This semester, I am going to focus on transferring to another major for premedicine or pre-dentistry. I want to find out what to change it to by taking classes which I think might be interesting.
I am going to get more sleep, so that I can have more and better mental energy to get more done, like get better grades, be healthy and get into medschool.
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a lifetime. The initial transition from being a student to working in the “real world” was challenging. Figuring out the subway and waking up at the crack of dawn to commute every day felt a lot more difficult than dragging my feet to a 1 p.m. class, but the feeling was quickly replaced with pure excitement about working in the career field I had dreamed of for so long. Having an internship for a longer period of time comes with many benefits. Rather than the standard eight-week-long summer internship, I had 16 weeks to get to know my internship’s environment and staff. I built relationships that I know wouldn’t have formed in two short months, had double the length of time to make an impression and, most importantly, learn. I was in a completely new place and got to take my weekends off to explore a part of the country that was unfamiliar to me. I also got to make new
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Through my summer internship, I realized how important it is to not only study for tests, but to learn the actual skills, which are far more valuable than the exams. That is what I want to do this year. JAIME MATHEW
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For this semester, my goal is to score an internship over the summer in any type of financial service— investment or banking—to better prepare myself as a business professional. ADAM MARYNIUK Senior in Business
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UI Career Center offers valuable resources, advice Center helps students secure internships, jobs BY HOLIDAY TANG STAFF WRITER
We enter college with one end-goal in mind: having a career. The University's Career Center is here to guide students to taking the proper steps toward their dream job. The Career Center is located at 715 S. Wright St. and has year-round events to assist students. The services the center provides include career and major exploration, assistance and advice on getting a job or internship, help with applying to graduate and professional schools, developing professional profiles, mock interviews and more. Sparkle Sanders is the assistant director of marketing, communications and event planning for the Career Center. “If you have already figured out a career or academic path that you are going into, one way to solidify it is to gain more experience in the area,” Sanders said. The center has a variety of programs and services focused on professional experience development, such as job shadowing and career fairs. Sanders encourages students to use the services the center offers and simultaneously work at an internship, volunteer or fi nd a part-time job to familiarize themselves with their career fields. Ivana Chkoumbova, junior in ACES, explained that after her visit to the Career Center, she felt more confident about what she needed to do to achieve her goal: attending medical school after graduation. “They gave me a very comprehensive document that lists all of the courses that I need in order to apply for medical school,” Chkoumbova said. “Even though I was familiar with the courses beforehand, I still felt better after my visit.” The Career Center can also help University students who are struggling to decide on a major. Sanders recommends setting up an appointment with a career coach to explore the professional possibilities. If a student prefers researching on his own, the official website of Career Center has information on different majors and the careers they can lead to. The Career Center emphasizes the importance of reaching a balance between two elements: academic performance and extracurricular involvement. “When you are looking for a job or an internship, employers are looking for a
Social media makes or breaks job opportunities BY MADELINE GALASSI SUPPLEMENTS EDITOR
variety of things,” Sanders said. “Among them include your GPA and your coursework, but they also look for things that demonstrated you as a well-rounded individual who has a variety of experience.” In order to gain extra-curricular experience, students are encouraged to participate in Registered Student Organizations. They can participate in research or volunteer work, among other experiences. Sanders explained that the Career Center helps connect students with different organizations and lead them to opportunities. Experience in extracurricular activities, internships and part-time jobs helps students acquire transferrable skills, which Sanders emphasized the importance of. “Grades, involvement and internship experience are all extremely important, but another component of standing out as a candidate is what we call transferable skills,” Sanders said. “These are things like leadership skills, communication skills, presentation skills, interpersonal skills and management skills.” The center offers different workshops and programs with a focus on honing some of these transferable skills. There are also small actions students can take to gradually build a professional network, which is also fundamental, according to Sanders. This includes making a professional profi le on LinkedIn, as well as the University's iLink, which the Career Center can provide assistance with. Networking can also include things as simple as engaging in more conversations with professors and other faculty staff, according to Sanders. “These are people who you can continue to lean on to help you discover and develop your professional competence, they can also connect you to the other professionals and opportunities,” he said. The Career Center also developed a program, Career Certificate International Students, to specifically cater to the needs of international students. By participating in Career Certificate International Students, international students can learn about interviewing skills, job searching skills and networking skills. “This is particularly valuable for students who want to stay in the U. S. and be competitive in getting a job or internship,” Sanders said. No matter the need or situation, the Career Center can help steer students toward achieving their dreams. supplements@dailyillini.com
They say you only have one chance to make a fi rst impression, and in 2017, sometimes that comes before meeting someone in person. Social media plays a role both in student’s job searches and in companies finding potential employees. Often, companies search a potential employee on social media before scheduling an interview, and a positive social media presence has the potential to make or break a job opportunity. Jessica Hogue, the director of career services at the College of Media, explained that social media has changed the job search for the better. “Social media has made the job search easier because it’s something people didn’t get to use before,” she said. “I talk a lot about having a personal brand, and with social media, you can have your brand out there during the job search.” Tracy Sa ma ntha Schmidt, a social media executive coach, spoke at a College of Media networking event on Jan. 13. She advised students on how to take their social media presence to the next level and make a positive impression on employers. Schmidt explained that social media is all about consistency.
Having the same pro“It’s all about whether or fi le picture across all plat- not you’re OK with having forms can aid in getting a presence from five or 10 recognized. years ago, and what that Although social media says about you,” she said. can seemingly be more “Do you want to take the prevalent to media-based time to double check everymajors, Hogue explained thing you’ve ever tweeted, that students of all majors or just scrap everything could benefit their careers and start fresh? That realwith social media. ly is up to you.” “For people in careers Schmidt explained that that want to be leaders a great fi rst step in douor possibly get noticed ble-checking your social by potential employers, media is to preform an social media can be really “Incognito” Google search. beneficial,” she said. “For Then, the information that them, their social media someone Googling a name would just for the fi rst look a little time, rathd i f fe r e n t . er than They would results spend more based on time talking what someabout projone h ad ects they’ve previously worked on searched, or research w o u l d they ’ve appear. JESSICA HOGUE done, but it DIRECTOR OF CAREER SERVICES, It can COLLEGE OF MEDIA can be relealso be vant to their important subset of to h ave people that they’re trying some sort of social media to interact with.” presence — whatever that The job search can often may be. come with a fear that a “I always tell stupotential employer could dents never to get rid of fi nd a Tweet or Status from their Facebook accounts. the past that might pre- Just start using them vent them from hiring a differently. candidate. Think of how you can Luckily, most college- use it to expand your netaged students are all in the work of people based on same boat, as most grew who you already know,” up with social media. Hogue said. H o w e v e r, Hogue LinkedIn is a very explained that deleting important social media unprofessional posts is platform and its self-proessential. claimed goal is to help peo-
“I always tell students (to never) get rid of their Facebook accounts. Just start using them differently.”
ple network professionally. It has the potential to provide opportunities to those who utilize it. “I have seen people successfully fi nd internships on LinkedIn,” Hogue said. “They seem to be making their interface more employer-friendly, and it makes it easier for them to fi nd potential candidates.” Hogue suggested students of every major make a LinkedIn account and always stay up to date with their profi les. One of the more challenging parts of making social media accounts more professional can be fi nding a balance between catering to both professionalism and staying social. Sch m idt suggested dividing social media content equally between three topics: you, the people around you, and the things that interest you. “If you’re using a platform for all professional reasons, don’t post a picture of you out on a Saturday night,” Hogue said. “But, if your platform is more about who you are as a person, I think that’s fi ne. It all depends on how you’re using it.” Social media has modernized the job search and changed the way people get hired and fi nd jobs. As it continues to evolve, the job industry will as well.
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Make the most of your internship experience JILLIAN KAEHLER Contributing writer
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ongratulations! You’ve just completed your internship. Whether you interned at your dream company over the summer or worked with a local group during the school year, you successfully survived, and that is a huge professional milestone. However, the work doesn’t end there. There are things you should do once you have finished an internship to increase your chance of getting hired in the future.
1. Stay connected with your colleagues.
Email, email, email! It is easy for employers to forget about past interns. Prioritize contacting them about three times a year via email with simple subject lines such as “Hope all is well," or "Checking in." Email subjects are always tricky, especially with the vague topic of just saying hi, so keep it easy and succinct. Share
what you have been up to recently, ask them about their work, and provide any examples of how your internship work continues to influence your daily life.
2. Keep your LinkedIn updated and turn on public notifications This is a great tool to inform your connections about what you are up to. In your LinkedIn settings account, turn on “Notify my network when I’ve made any changes” and any time you update your profile or start a new job, your connections will get an email or notification about your new position. They can then send a congratulatory comment your way, or at least be reminded that you still exist.
3. Visit the company (if possible)
Did you work in Chicago this summer? If you don’t have any spring break plans, or are home for a long weekend, get permission to drop by the office. Walking through the old stomping grounds will be a great way to show your colleagues your inter-
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est and dedication to your work. If you can’t make it into the office, reach out to a colleague to grab lunch or coffee. Even if they are unavailable, they will be reminded of your connection, and can definitely try for another time. If you were in Washington D.C., New York or anywhere across the globe, don’t let distance get you down. In your email correspondence with a colleague, make it known that the next time you’re in town, you’ll be stopping by.
4. Understand that there won't be a constant stream of communication
Remember that people are busy. If a previous coworker doesn’t respond right away, don’t take it personally. It can take months for a connection to get back to you with his or her reply, and that’s normal. Make sure your response back is in a fairly timely manner as well.
5. Don't forget about your fellow interns/ classmates
Email, email, email! It is easy for employers to forget about past interns. Prioritize contacting them about three times a year via email. you are. If you met at the company, or if you met at a school career fair, don’t disregard them as competition, or write them off because they don’t have a fancy title. Networking is all about who you know, your fellow interns could end up working at your dream company in the future, so it's important to stay in contact.
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