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“Bowie by Mick Rock” opens at MoPOP July 1 New exhibition features rare Bowie photos by “The Man Who Shot the Seventies” “BOWIE BY MICK ROCK” MUSEUM OF POP CULTURE July 1-January 15 The Museum of Pop Culture (MoPOP) is excited to announce a new exhibition, “Bowie by Mick Rock,” opening July 1. Between 1972 and 1973, when David Bowie was redefining glam rock as the androgynous alien rock star Ziggy Stardust, fellow Londoner Mick Rock was the musician’s official photographer. Bowie told his manager at the time, “Mick sees me the way I see myself.” “Bowie by Mick Rock” features 65 of Rock’s photographs that capture Bowie’s creativity and charisma, from dressing room shots of his transformation into Ziggy Stardust and live performances to private moments between gigs. “I think David trusted me,” reflects Rock. “I regarded myself as a guardian of his image, and that’s true to this day.” Described as “The Man Who Shot the Seventies,” Rock’s photos of other music icons – Lou Reed, Queen, Iggy Pop, and Blondie’s Debbie Harry – will also be on display. Rock, who was recently the subject of the documentary, SHOT! The Psycho Spiritual Mantra of Rock, also captured rare performance footage and interviews with Bowie, and directed his early music videos, which will be featured in the exhibition. The gallery will also include oral history interviews and an audio tour narrated by Rock who shares intimate accounts of his experiences with Bowie. In addition,
Steve Fisk, co-producer of Nirvana’s Blew EP, in collaboration with Seattle-based interactive producer Bill Ronan will compose an original exhibition soundtrack and create a multimedia installation that blends the sound and vision of Bowie’s glittery spacealien persona. “When David made Ziggy Stardust, which is all about stardom, he was not a star,” says Rock. “That was the record that made him a star.” “Bowie by Mick Rock” will be on view at MoPOP through January 15, 2018. MICK ROCK BIOGRAPHY Legendary rock photographer Mick Rock is often referred to as “The Man Who Shot the Seventies,” for his iconic images of David Bowie, Syd Barrett, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, Queen, the Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Blondie, Rocky Horror Picture Show, and more. London born, he has resided in New York for the past 35 years. He has shot more than 100 album covers. Rock’s recent subjects include Snoop Dogg, Father John Misty, Lenny Kravitz, Janelle Monáe, Jimmy Fallon, The Black Keys, Karen O, Ellie Goulding, Alicia Keys, Michael Bublé, Daft Punk, Perry Farrell, Mötley Crüe, TV On the Radio, Pharrell, Josh Groban, Flaming Lips, Nas, Rufus Wainwright, Kings of Leon, R Kelly, The Black Lips, Queens of the Stone Age, and others. Rock was instrumental in creating many key rock ‘n’ roll images, such as album covers for Syd Barrett’s Madcap Laughs, Lou Reed’s Transformer and Coney Island Baby, Iggy and The Stooges’ Raw Power, Queen’s Queen II (recreated for their classic music video “Bohemian Rhapsody”) and Sheer Heart Attack, The Ramones’ End of the Century and Joan Jett’s I Love Rock ‘n’ Roll, among many others. He was the chief photographer on the films The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Hedwig and the Angry Inch and Shortbus. He recently shot special stills for the new TV version of “Rocky Horror.” He also produced and directed the seminal music videos for Bowie: “John, I’m Only Dancing,” “Jean Genie,” “Space Oddity,” and “Life On Mars.” In recent years, Rock has published a series of books, mostly based on his classic images: A Photographic Record 1969-1980 (foreword by Lou Reed) (Century 22 Books, 1995); Glam: An Eyewitness Account (foreword by David Bowie) (Omnibus Books, 2006); Psychedelic Renegades / Syd Barrett (Genesis Publications, 2002); Moonage Daydream / Ziggy Stardust (with David Bowie) (Genesis Publications, 2002); Rock ‘n’ Roll Eye (Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, 2003); Killer Queen (with Brian May and Roger Taylor) (Genesis Publications, 2003); Picture This / Debbie Harry & Blondie (foreword by Debbie Har-
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continued from cover ry) (Omnibus Books, 2004); Raw Power / Iggy & The Stooges (foreword by Iggy Pop) (Omnibus Books, 2005); Rocky Horror (foreword by Richard O’Brien) (Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf, 2006); Classic Queen (Sterling Press, 2007); Tamashii: Mick Rock Meets Kanzaburo (Kabuki Theatre Photos) (Hachette Fujingaho, Japan, 2007); Psychedelic Renegades (Gingko Press, 2007); EXPOSED (Hardcover, Chronicle Books, 2010); Transformer (with Lou Reed), (Genesis Publications 2013); EXPOSED (Softcover, Palazzo Editions, 2014) His latest publication, The Rise of David Bowie 1972-1973 (with David Bowie), (Taschen Books, published September 2015), a spectacular limited edition cosigned with Bowie, sold out just before Bowie’s death. It was Taschen’s fastest-ever selling limited edition publication. He is currently promoting the trade edition. He is featured in an episode of The Red Bull Films series VISIONS OF GREATNESS, which was initially broadcast in the Autumn of 2016 and starred in the acclaimed Ovation Cable TV series in 2016, ON THE RECORD. SHOT! a documentary about his career, produced by Vice Films and Straight Up Films, launched at the Tribeca Film Festival in April 2016 and opened in theaters
in the Spring of 2017. It will be screened at MoPOP during the opening of “David Bowie: Starman, Shot By Mick Rock.” The documentary is being distributed by Magnolia Pictures. Magnolia President Eamonn Bowles said, “The number of iconic photos that Mick Rock has taken and the access to the most compelling figures of our time is staggering. This film beautifully realizes his journey.” For more info, visit www.mickrock. com. ABOUT THE MUSEUM OF POP CULTURE (MoPOP) MoPOP is a leading-edge, nonprofit museum, dedicated to the ideas and risk-taking that fuel popular culture. With its roots in rock ‘n’ roll, MoPOP serves as a gateway museum, reaching multigenerational audiences through collections, exhibitions and educational programs, using interactive technologies to engage and empower its visitors. At MoPOP, artists, audiences and ideas converge, bringing understanding, interpretation and scholarship to the popular culture of our time. MoPOP is housed in a 140,000 square foot Frank O. Gehry-designed building. This spectacular, prominently visible structure has the presence of a monumental sculpture set amid the backdrop of the Seattle Center. Courtesy of the Museum of Pop Culture (MoPOP)
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SGN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW Joey Arias on Pride, Drag and Bowie
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by MK Scott SGN A&E Writer Seattle PrideFest at Seattle Center on Sunday, June 25 promises to be a great show to enjoy the heat from Aleksa Manila to Ms Pak Man and the always fabulous Mary Lambert. PrideFest has always done well with out of town legends in years past from Jackie Beat to Amanda Lepore and Lady Bunny. This year brings bonafide legend, Joey Arias, to the main stage. My relationship with Arias goes back to 2010, when she was in town for the screening of Arias with a Twist at SLGFF. I was elated to chat with her about her return to Seattle. MK Scott: Hey, Joey. Happy Pride! Joey Arias: Thank you. Yes. Always having Pride every single day of my life. And especially, here we are in June, and the whole world recognizes like here we are all together as one. MK: Well, I was excited to learn that you’re coming to Seattle again. It’s been a couple of years since you’ve been to Seattle. So you’re going to come and celebrate Pride with us? Joey: Yes, I’m so excited. Are you kidding? It’s going to be so wonderful to see all my friends. Yeah, it’s going to be fantastic. MK: What do you like most about Seattle? Joey: I love the people. And I love their honesty. And they’re kind of like be free and celebrate who they are every day. That’s what I think. It’s amazing, people are so open, and respectful, and exciting, and actually loving. MK: And what do you have planned for your PrideFest performance? Joey: Well, I’m kind of working on that right now, I’ll double check with the agent, and what we’d do is a playback, or review new bands or whatever, but I plan to like do something fun, as usual, and just give a big shout out to Seattle. And I’m glad I’m doing the hostess of Gay Pride in Seattle. I can’t believe it. It’s such an honor! MK: And how is your occasional contributor, Basil (Twist)? Joey: Great. You know, he’s working all the time, he’s got some projects. He’s either going to Paris, or back to San Francisco,
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or in the Midwest working on ballets and operas. He’s doing The Chocolate Factory, which got, he got a Drama Desk award for his Oompa Loompas. MK: Oh? He worked on that? That is fabulous! Joey: Yes, it was amazing. MK: And are you planning on working together again soon? Joey: Oh, yeah. There’s something I’m working on, something by the Fall, I hope, at The Public Theater. I don’t want to say too much about it, but there will be some dazzle and connection in there. (Chuckle) I just can’t give it away right now because it’s pretty private. MK: (Chuckle) Right. And how is your husband, Juana? Joey: Well, he’s in Scotland working on his new film, and he’ll be there actually quite a while because he’s meeting with film people and so and so, and casting. So he’s there now, so he’s been pretty busy. And I don’t know what’s going go (on) now, because he’s going to be gone for a while. So it’s kind of like – yeah – it’s kind of like we don’t know where it’s going to go now,
but, you know, let’s see what happens. MK: Now, especially with “Rupaul’s Drag Race,” you know, there’s just like so many drag shows. Joey: Mm-hmm. MK: I think just in the last month or so we’ve had like three or four, you know, during the whole month, you know. And these are all “Rupaul’s Drag Race” shows going on tour and whatever. Are there any of these new queens out there … Do you have any favorites? Joey: There’s a new queen trying to get on the Rupaul show, and his name, her name is Aquaria. And she’s young. She’s like 20 years old, I think, and she’s pretty fabulous. I really love her. And, you know, and I was in Miami with Thorgy Thor and hanging out and talking about Rupaul’s show, and some of the other queens that had done a Rupaul show. And it’s great exposure. It makes it better, it makes it more commercial instead of like, the original version was like more underground and more secretive, you know, like what are we going to get from this? And now it’s, I think, well, I think it’s great the “Rupaul’s
Drag Race” show has made it very popular for the public. That’s the drag world. And so even if these queens don’t do too much, or whatever, I think just being on TV – some people are like excited to be that television personality. You know? And maybe they don’t do too much except for being on television. Or like somebody like Charles Busch, myself, or Lady Bunny, Sherry Vine, Raven O Jackie Beat, it goes on and on. It’s a different presentation. Artists that work their whole lives doing – making productions and shows and this and that, but unless you’re on “RuPaul’s Drag Race” people don’t really know about these things. So it’s kind of like it makes it a little bit harder, but the people who know who we are are thrilled and excited, you know, to have us. And I think we’re lucky enough that we kind of created this iconic image of ourselves, and you know, we’re kind of above that, so you don’t really need that TV thing. It would be great but, you know, thank god we’re all working. And having new ideas and new things, and promoting, you know, productions and shows, and giving the public what they really want and something really exciting. And when you meet these new queens they’re also very, you know, they’re like, I’m going to be a legend, I’m going to be a legend. You know? MK: All right. And I got a serious question for you. For Pride season, under the current administration … How should we cope? Joey: Well, how do we cope? We cope with ourselves. We, it’s the same thing as like the President pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Every state says we are staying in this, and we don’t give a shit what the fuck Washington’s doing, because Washington now is like a joke, it’s like a reality show. And the real people are, you know, bonding together, and I think the thing I like about Pride. It’s about us. It’s about what we’re doing. Now we’re celebrating it and promoting it. But the President doesn’t want to give us a signal, you know, Pride month, as Obama did and other presidents. It’s sad to see this environment in Washington, DC, which is, of course, transformed now into this bizarre, I don’t even know what the word is, just King Trump, all about Trump. And he’s afraid to like promote, you know, Pride Month. It’s crazy. It’s insane. Because at this point it’s like I feel like why do you bother? You’re not going to
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last long enough. So as soon as he’s gone the next president will be celebrating us as they did for 60 years. Does that make sense to you? MK: Absolutely. Joey: Yeah. So I don’t give a fuck what President Trump does, or if he acknowledges it, well, then fuck off, see you later, alligator. That’s why no one is going to support you and no one gives a shit about you. He’s a traitor, he’s a fool. You know, I met him years ago and he was just a terrible man when I met him. MK: I spoke to a friend of mine who met him and he basically said he’s a monster. Joey: Yeah. Yeah. He is. MK: The burning question. This past year we lost David Bowie, and you and Klaus famously sang backup for him. What was that experience like? Joey: Well, you know, growing up, you know, looking at David Bowie, it was like, oh, my god, I want that. Everything I wanted to be, and everything that was burning inside of me, David was doing it. And I was like, oh, I’m following him. Following him. And especially, you know, living in New York there’d be David Bowie sightings. So Klaus and I would, you know, we’d show up to different events at nightclubs where David liked to hang out. And it was one night at the Mudd Club that we were there, it was late, it was rather late. And I think it was about 4:00 in the morning and we’re getting ready to leave, and someone said I got to say goodnight to David. And we’re like, David? The famous David Bowie? And they were like, oh, my god! MK: Oh, my god. Joey: And then we went up to him and he turned around, and he was like, oh, my god, Klaus, I don’t believe it, I just got back from Berlin. And they exchanged numbers, and called, and we met a cou-
ple of times. And they had different projects that they were going to work on. And this wasn’t working out, or the direction, I think, where David wanted it to go. And so at one point he asked Klaus, do you think Joey would like to join us doing “Saturday Night Live”? And, of course, I was asked that question, I said: “Are you kidding?” Of course! And so we met up, and we spent a week together, and it was amazing. David was so charming, and like a little boy. I mean we sat very close to each other. Our noses were almost touching each other. And we talked for hours, hours, hours. And we played, we laughed, we listened to music. We talked about everything under the sun. And it was amazing. David was just blown away. He was saying; god, I wish I was doing shows with you. You know, more shows like this, because you guys are amazing. Because we’re choreographing ourselves, and we’re doing our own thing, and he’s just like, I’m doing the same thing, you guys are just like on top of it. And we had a ball. A ball. He was so happy and thrilled. It was one of the highlights of his life. And yeah, it was great; it was amazing! And we kept in touch over the years. And I think the last time I saw him was, oh, maybe after Cirque du Soleil, we all went for dinner in Paris. And yeah, it was great. He was like gagging, it’s like, oh, my god, look at you, Joey! I know! And then there was a six-hour day at Mugler Paris and some of the guests. And we were walking to the shops with David and Iman, holding each other, walking down the street, and people were walking by and looking at us, like, huh? They couldn’t believe it. And we were skipping and laughing. It was great. MK: Wow! Well, actually, it was so cool that they showed the rerun right after he died – “Saturday Night Live” had shown the rerun of you, your performance, which was amazing – because I had never seen the
full performance, and it was just, now we knew exactly, oh, that was wonderful, yeah, because it was. Joey: And it’s timeless. You know, you look at it now and it’s like it’s still fresh. MK: It’s iconic. Totally iconic. Joey: And I remember telling David, I said: I don’t think we’re going to wear clothes that people would identify with a certain era in time, but something that’s beyond. And he’s like; this I like a lot. And then we got these Muglar dresses. MK: Yes, those dresses were fabulous. Joey: I mean the viewers really were shocked, but it really made a statement. And that’s why David wore that Chinese airline’s stewardess’ dress also. Just because he was so beyond and fresh, and this is before drag was accepted and before, you know, aliens were, you know, spying on
earth, it was everything that David believed in, and everything that we believed in. It was great. It was a great working process together. MK: Thank you so much for chatting with me. And we will definitely look forward to seeing you next weekend. Joey: I love Seattle. I love you and thank you. MK: Thank you – appreciate it. See Joey Arias perform at the Seattle Pridefest on Sunday, June 25th at 5:30pm. Hear more of this interview on MK’s podcast; podomatic.com/podcasts/itsfab MK Scott is a Seattle-based arts blogger. Check out his blog at outviewonline. com.
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by Albert Rodriguez SGN A&E Writer BENDELACREME INFERNO A-GO-GO PANTAGES THEATER (TACOMA) July 7 @ 7:30pm I’m still bitter that BenDeLaCreme was eliminated so early on “RuPaul’s Drag Race.” I admit, Bianco Del Rio reigned supreme on Season 6, but “DeLa” should have advanced to the final three. That said, the Seattle drag performer benefitted greatly from appearing on the Emmy-winning series, gaining followers all around the world and touring with with “Drag Race” alum throughout North America, when she isn’t here in Seattle performing for hometown audiences. Speaking of, BenDeLaCreme has a new show called “Inferno A-GoGo” that is being staged July 7 at Pantages Theater, coinciding with Tacoma’s Pride Festival. The show mixes song, puppetry, razor wit and campy fun in what can best be described as a flaming hot mess. For tickets, call the Broadway Center Box Office at (253) 591-5894, toll-free at 1 (800) 2917593, online at www.BroadwayCenter.org, or in person at 901 Broadway in Tacoma’s Theater District. I caught up with BenDeLaCreme via email this week and here’s what she had to say: Albert Rodriguez: What does Pride mean to you? BenDeLaCreme: Pride is an opportunity for us to celebrate how far we have come as a colorful, vibrant community, while also reflecting on our history and paying homage to all the important individuals who have paved the way. Pride all started with Stonewall: it wasn’t a parade, it was a police riot lead by trans women of color – and it certainly didn’t have any corporate sponsorship. With the current direction our country is heading, that spirit of re-
bellion and fearlessness is something that I think we need to tap back into. Even though trans and POC members of our community have been on the front lines for decades, they are still struggling the hardest. We need to continue to be outspoken supporters of EVERY member of the GLBTQ community! Rodriguez: How will you celebrate Pride this year? BenDeLaCreme: Mostly on an airplane! June is filled with Pride events all over the country, so I spend most of the month flying from one gig to another. This weekend, for instance, I get to end a show at 2am in Minneapolis and be on a parade float at noon in Cincinnati! But it’s really fun to get to be part of so many cities’ biggest, queerest events. Rodriguez: Can you tell us about your upcoming show in Tacoma – the theme, is it a solo performance, who wrote and directed it? BenDeLaCreme: “Inferno A Go-Go” is a one-person cabaret based on Dante’s Inferno! I know – weird. But somehow a sparkly comedic drag romp through hell really works! It had a great reception when I premiered it in New York last year and has since been booked in San Francisco, D.C., and Provincetown. I’m excited to bring it to Tacoma after running it in Seattle for a couple of weeks last fall! I hope it provides an opportunity for folks in the area to see it who may have missed it the first time around. I wrote and directed it, with assistance from Scott Shoemaker, as well as making the sets, puppets and props, and playing all 9 characters. I love doing solo work because it really allows me to push all my various skills as an artist. Rodriguez: Have you been cheering anyone on specifically to win this season’s “RuPaul’s Drag Race”? BenDeLaCreme: You know, I love “Drag Race,” but I don’t really view it for the competitive or drama elements. I just love to see all the different amazing queens
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across the country who are elevating the art form in their own unique ways! It really is the best of the best – the whole cast is packed with talent. Rodriguez: If you were offered to return for an All-Star season, would you do it? BenDeLaCreme: I’m so grateful for my time on “Drag Race,” and am super thankful for all the doors it has opened, but I feel that I had the best experience I could have had, and I’d rather have fond memories of that and continue to move forward with my stage shows. The reality TV format treated me well, but it’s ultimately not the place where I flourish most. Rodriguez: There was tension between you and Darienne Lake on “Drag Race.” Did that ever get smoothed out? BenDeLaCreme: There really was never any tension between the two of us. Everything looks bigger when it’s edited together with some dramatic sound effects. I adore Darienne! Rodriguez: After the Tacoma show, what’s next for BenDeLaCreme? What can we expect in the latter half of 2017? BenDeLaCreme: I’ll be heading straight to Provincetown to run “Inferno A Go-Go” for the summer, then I’m off to a European tour until I come back this October to premiere a BRAND NEW SHOW at ACT Theatre! It’s not QUITE time for me to reveal all the info yet, but keep your eyes peeled, cuz it’s gonna be a DOOZY! Rodriguez: It’s summertime. What’s your favorite thing to do in Seattle during the warm months?
BenDeLaCreme: Leave! Haha – not really, but sadly it’s what I always do. I’m always on the East Coast – I haven’t had a summer in Seattle for at least five years! I miss it so much though. I love Seattle at any time of year, but when the sun’s out and everyone’s happy there’s no better place to be! Rodriguez: Okay, Seattle Snack Battle: Are you Team Cupcake Royale, Team Molly Moon’s Ice Cream or Team Top Pot Doughnuts? BenDeLaCreme: OK – I am an ice cream FANATIC, so my choice is always ice cream, but the best ice cream on the Hill is at Kurt Farm Shop. All their stuff is made locally from local products! They have a cheese ice cream and a salted plum ice cream, and when they are combined there is NO GREATER THING ON EARTH! First runner up is Frankie and Joe’s, which despite being completely vegan (!!!) is incredible. Rodriguez: For anyone attending their very first Pride Parade this year, whether they’re a teenager or recently came out or perhaps even someone from a different country experiencing the freedom of this event, what would you say to them? BenDeLaCreme: I’d say SOAK IT UP! Enjoy the fact that we all get to have an amazing, public celebration of who we are! Make sure to patronize local businesses that support the queer community yearround over places that are just cashing in for the weekend. And, if you don’t know much about where Pride comes from – do a little research! Our history is fascinating and inspiring! Have fun!
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by Albert Rodriguez SGN A&E Writer Brad Evans is an MLS Cup champion and team captain of the FC Seattle Sounders. Megan Rapinoe is a Women’s World Cup champion, Olympic gold medalist and plays for the Seattle Reign FC. Mary Harvey is also a Women’s World Cup champion and Olympic gold medalist, who retired from athletic competition in 1996. Together, these current and former sports stars joined forces, along with coaches, owners, general managers and fellow athletes representating all five of the city’s professional sports clubs – Seattle Sounders FC, Seattle Mariners, Seattle Reign FC, Seattle Storm and Seattle Seahawks – in an historic coordinated effort to show its support of Pride and LGBT acceptance. Never before has a coalition from a local sports community come together to take a stand for LGBT inclusion and to share a message that “Equality is a team sport.” A press conference held on June 20, in Pioneer Square close to the football-soccer and baseball stadiums, was partly hosted by Athlete Ally, an organization founded by Hudson Taylor, a former high school and college student-athlete, that aims to stop homophobia and transphobia in sports and educate athletic communities to stand up against anti-LGBT discrimination. “Today, the Seattle sports community is telling the world that athletes, coaches, fans and officials, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity, should have equal access, opportunity and expe-
rience in sports,” said Taylor in his introductory remarks. “At its best, sport doesn’t discriminate. As a matter of fact, it thrives on diversity. Our teams are strongest when everyone is accepted and respected.” Prior to advocating for equal rights in sports, the 30 year-old was an All-American wrestler at the University of Maryland and coached at Columbia University. John Stanton, CEO of the Seattle Mariners, noted that the Major League Baseball organization has for 70 years embraced diversity, including instituting a Jackie Robinson Day that celebrates the man who became the first African-American player in the league. “Every movement, every beginning starts with something like this,” stated Evans in his opening remarks, his neck draped with a rainbow-colored scarf. “I’m happy with the leadership of Adrian (Hanauer, Seattle Sounders FC owner). This is something that was easy for me to get involved with. I can never imagine being in someone else’s shoes, so as pillars of this community it’s our job then to be an outlet.” Ed Goines, Vice President of Government Affairs & General Counsel for the Seattle Seahawks, said right away that “I am very proud to be here on this very historic day.” He was a last-minute fill-in for wide receiver Doug Baldwin, who wasn’t able to get out of a prior engagement, but expressed his thoughts via text message at the press conference. “He wants us to focus on watching how our players embrace tough issues and watching as we encourage them,” Goines read
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from his phone. “It’s the same with any issue that’s released to us, whether it’s a diversity issue, including LGBTQ issues. Those will be embraced by us. So, we ask you to watch us and hold us accountable to that.” Rapinoe, who rose to international fame with her brilliant play at the London Olympics and 2015 Women’s World Cup, spoke sincerely about her experience being an out athlete. “This means the world to a gay athlete, if you’re out or not,” she said looking across her shoulder to teammates, coaches and representatives from Seattle sports teams seated on a long table to her right, and to a packed room at The NINETY event space, which is owned by the Sounders. Rapinoe later made everbody laugh with her reply to a question on what actual conversations about LGBT issues exist currently in locker rooms. “We have a big, gay locker room,” she declared with a smile, as her teammates seated in the front row on the floor laughed loudly. Perhaps the most powerful and wonderful quote of the joint conference came from
Evans, when asked if he felt obligated to support LGBT equality. “It’s what I believe in my heart,” he said firmly. All sports clubs, except for the Seattle Seahawks, hosted, or will host, Pride matches and games. The Seattle Sounders FC’s Pride Match took place on June 21 vs. Orlando City SC, the Seattle Mariners’ Pride Game was held on June 22 vs. the Detroit Tigers, the Seattle Storm’s Pride Game is being played on June 23 vs. the Phoenix Mercury and the Seattle Reign FC’s Pride Match is scheduled for June 24 vs. FC Kansas City. Although the Seahawks are currently in the off-season and unable to host a sporting event, Goines mentioned that the CenturyLink Field arches would be illuminated in rainbow colors during Pride weekend. With only one openly gay athlete out of 4,000 men playing in major professional sports right now, it’s possible that many closeted athletes are afraid to come out due to fear of not being accepted or supported. Fortunately, in Seattle the acceptance and support is already in place.
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Marriage Equality activist, Evan Wolfson, reflects on his journey in new documentary, The Freedom to Marry, now on VOD by MK Scott SGN Contributing Writer THE FREEDOM TO MARRY VOD Documenting one of the greatest civil rights stories of our time, The Freedom to Marry is a nail-biting, behind-the-scenes story that traces the marriage equality movement’s historic progress. Detailing the fight to win same sex marriage throughout the United States reveals the masterminds behind the movement. The Freedom to Marry follows Evan Wolfson, the architect of the marriage movement, attorney Mary Bonauto, and their team through their decades long battle, culminating in a dramatic fight at the United States Supreme Court. More than the saga of one of the most important civil rights stories of our time, this is an inspiring tale of how a real change occurs, even against the biggest odds. The film is directed by veteran doc filmmaker Eddie Rosenstein and produced by Jenni Olson and Amie Segal. After a successful national theatrical run this spring, The Freedom to Marry became available digitally on June 6, timed to the national LGBT pride celebrations in the United States. I was given an opportunity to chat with Wolfson by phone a few months back (February 25) to not just discuss the film, but to also ask him some important questions regarding the issues we face during this political climate. MK Scott: Hello, Evan, we met years ago at the NLGJA Convention. I am super excited to talk to you about being one of the two subjects in the documentary, The Freedom to Marry. The other one is Mary Bonato. How did you get involved in the project? Evan Wolfson: Well, the filmmaker, Eddie Rosenstein, is a friend, is the son of a family friend. His parents and my parents have been friends forever. So I didn’t really know him, but I knew his family very well, I knew his parents very well. And he called me up right when the Supreme Court announced that they were going to hear the case and he said, you know, I’ve been following your work for years, I really should’ve done this earlier, but who’s making the film? And I said, well, we don’t really have anyone yet. He said, well, actually I’m a filmmaker, I’d love to come in and talk to you. And he did. And two days later he was off and filming. And he really scrambled to capture not only the story and the drama of that ascent to the summit, you know, the last chapter of our campaign, but to use that as a way of looking back on the decades of work and all the elements that went into the massive transformation that allowed us to win. MK: And going back, what was your toughest challenge in the fight for marriage equality? EW: Well, of course, the toughest challenge was going as a small minority who were despised and oppressed and had this really [the] odds of organizations and powers and propaganda stacked against us, going from that place to changing hearts and minds, and as a small minority persuading the majority to rethink and to open up and to push past all those prejudices and propaganda and barriers, and be willing to
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change. And then to turn that change into political and legal work. That was the hardest challenge, it was the big challenge of the work. But I will say also we were not united ourselves. There were disagreements amongst even gay people and our allies about whether to fight for marriage, when to fight for marriage, how to fight for marriage, whether it was too risky, too difficult, premature. And probably the most frustrating part of the work was trying to persuade my friends, trying to persuade my own community, you know, my own colleagues. That was the part that pushed the button the most, even though the hard part was really getting out there and changing the public, changing the law.
really a small part of what I pay attention to because mostly there’s so much desire on the part of so many people and even so many countries to build on this work and to try to make the world better in other ways, but I really have the luck and the privilege of getting to work with a lot of different organizations and different causes in different countries including, for example, the win we just racked up yesterday [February 24, 2017] in Taiwan where we saw a victory in the high court in Taiwan which now brings us our seventh continent. We had won the freedom to marry in places on all, on six of the seven continents, including Antarctica, and finally yesterday we were able to get the seventh, which will give us a
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MK: What has surprised you the most about, I would say either before, or maybe even after, marriage equality? EW: I think one of the things that may be surprising is that even though there are some powerful lessons of how to win, and happily that is where I’m getting to spend my time doing, people are now coming to me, different causes, different organizations, different movements, different countries, asking to share those lessons and to think about how to adapt the elements of change from the Freedom to Marry campaign to other causes. That’s the wonderful thing and the great power of what we’re getting to do, and that’s part of what the movie helps do; share those lessons. But I guess part of what has been a little surprising to me is that even though there’s been this tremendous interest on the part of so many around the world and the United States, not just the LGBT community, but different organizations, different causes to share these lessons, they’re still finding even with our own movement we don’t really seem to be applying those lessons and building it. That’s probably the biggest thing that’s been surprising to me these days, but it’s
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lot more to work with going forward. MK: Now, the community has really come together during the fight for marriage equality as they did during the AIDS crisis. What changed during that span of 30 years? EW: Well, let me just say, there was no point where the entire community, the entire LGBT movement, agreed on marriage, or on anything else. MK: Yes, that is true. EW: You’re absolutely right that a critical mass of gay people, and trans people, and organizations did come into the work and did a piece of the work, and that was a key part of how we won. And alongside all the non-gay people, and non-gay organizations that we brought in. But we didn’t actually have everybody agree and we still actually don’t have everybody agreeing. And one of the lessons of the Freedom to Marry strategy and campaign that the movie also captures is you actually don’t need everybody. You shouldn’t be trying to force everybody to agree, and you shouldn’t be worrying if there is some disagreement. What you do is you work to bring and inspire and leverage the ones who do agree and who can agree, and who come to agree.
You don’t need every, you just need enough. MK: In regards to what’s going on today with Trump and a new conservative judge, and there’s a possibility of more conservative judges before we’re done with this. Do you think that marriage equality is in danger? EW: Look, anything can happen. So I don’t think we should ever be complacent, or just give up or stop working. But even though the election was a catastrophe, and our country is very much on the wrong path, I actually think there are other communities and other values and other things we care about that are more in danger. And if we would do the work of standing in solidarity with the others and keep moving forward we will also thereby secure our own gains. I’m not really worried that they’re going to be taking away the freedom to marry. That’s a very hard thing to do. I don’t think it’s what most want to do, even former opponents, even continuing opponents, have other things that they mostly are focused on. So let’s remember that in order to win the freedom to marry in the Supreme Court we first, over years and years, decades of hard work and persuasion, won in the court of public opinion. When we stood in front of the Supreme Court in 2015 we had grown public support from 27% when I did the world’s first trial back in Hawaii to 63% support. And that didn’t go away on Election Day. More than a million gay people have gotten legally married in the United States. And for each one of those million that represents millions of family members and friends and others who love them and are supportive. That didn’t go away on Election Day. And we won after many losses, ultimately about a hundred court rulings, not just the final one. And that didn’t go away on Election Day. So I think we have created facts on the ground and built public opinion and know how to fight and have brought allies and supporters into our work and we have to just keep moving forward. The Gallup Poll last week reported that in the two years since we’ve won the freedom to marry there has been no horror, no shock, no terrible things that have happened that have caused the public to pull away. In fact the Gallup Poll reported last week we’re at an all-time record high. Public support continues to grow, including, by the way, there are more majority support now amongst Republicans, we’re at 47%. So we have to be vigilant, we have to do the work, but losing the freedom to marry is not the thing I think we have to be most focused on. MK: Well, that’s true. You know, how many times have they tried to say; okay, we’re going to reverse Roe v. Wade. It’s never even come close. EW: Yeah, exactly. Well, they did chip away and erode and undermine Roe v. Wade in many ways across many parts of the country, and that is actually still a very urgent piece of work that we all have to commit to. I think that’s actually more in the front lines of the anti-gay, anti-women, anti-choice, anti-freedom contingent in the Trump regime. And that’s where I think we need to be putting more energy. And, again, if we do that work we will not only defend there, but we will also be advancing and protecting our own gains. MK: According to Dustin Lance Black who I chatted with a few months ago, he said that the new front, or the new thing, is showing up for every march. You know?
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Show up for the women’s march, show up for the trans march, showing up for everything else. Do you agree with that? EW: I agree with the spirit of that idea. I would actually do a friendly amendment and say it’s not just about marching, it’s also about organizing, it’s about litigating, it’s about contacting our government officials and having private, quiet conversations in addition to public demonstration. It’s not enough to just show up at a march. We didn’t win by marching, although marching and public organizing is definitely part of it. But what we really achieved in change is conversation. And that’s what moves hearts and minds. And then we need to combine that with political work, legal work, and actual tenacity in the work. So with that friendly amendment I would agree with the idea. We definitely do agree we need to, and I’ve been heartened that we have been showing up in solidarity with the other communities that are under attack; immigrants, people of color, women, in addition to LGBT people and, of course, these communities overlap. And so when we show up for each other, not just in the marches, but in the organizing, and in the elections, and by voting, that’s how we will reclaim political power and move the country forward and get it back on track. MK: A question my publisher wanted me to ask you. With the murders in Chechnya and harsh treatments of LGBTQ refugees, why hasn’t the community come together on this yet? It’s like they should be storming City Hall, or they should be setting up these big huge – the kinds of things where they just lay there and play dead as part of a protest. He wants more action on this. EW: Well, again, I will never say we don’t need action. We do need more action, although I would say, again, it’s not just about gestures and demonstrations, though they do have their place, it’s also about contacting members of Congress, contacting the State Department, contacting the Russian Embassy, contacting and working with organizations who work in global forums. We absolutely need to find all the ways of making our voice heard and putting a spotlight and putting pressure on the disgusting and appalling human rights abuses we see in Chechnya and other places. We absolutely need to do all of that. But if we limit our playbook to public demonstrations we have to really think about whom are we reaching and whom are we not reaching? I’d rather make sure we use all the tools and work the whole playbook, but then I agree we need to do that when it comes to these dire and appalling human rights abuses we see in
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places like Russia, like Chechnya, like Saudi Arabia, like Iran, like recently Indonesia, Uganda. I mean there are lots of places in the world where our brothers and sisters and women and others are under terrible conditions. And we have to fight for them. And one of the most effective ways we can fight for them, not the only one, but one of the most effective ways, is by making sure that the countries where we’re lucky enough to have the promise of freedom and equality and the rule of law, that those countries are living up to their promise. And that’s why the work that we do in the United States, and the work we do in Taiwan, Australia, in the Czech Republic and all the other countries where we’re fighting for the freedom to marry and other human rights advances, that’s also a huge part of the work. It’s not only about what can we do to shine the spotlight on Chechnya, as urgent as that is, it’s also about making sure we’re doing everything we can to raise the human rights momentum in the countries we can win first. MK: On a different subject, who has influenced you to take on the fight for marriage equality? Do you have any mentors? Anyone that’s influenced you? EW: Well, I often talk about how one of the two major rights experiences that led to my writing my law school thesis back in 1983 on the freedom to marry was reading the book that changed my life, Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality by John Boswell. And by his work of history, and we later got to meet and become
friends and worked together, but first I read his book as a young, gay student. I actually bought it, when I read the review of it, in this sweeping history, I rushed down and put a fake cover on it and read it on the beach in Florida with my grandparents devouring the story he told which was basically about the history, the first 4,000 years of Western history and how gay people were treated. And the lesson I took away from that book was if it had once been different it could be different again. The history was not what we were taught. It’s not like the world was always anti-gay and every society looked down on gay people. To the contrary. There were periods and places where the understanding of gay people and homosexuality, and even gay relationships, and Boswell argued marriage, was very, very different. And if it was once different it could be different again. And that lesson really stuck with me when later as a law student I decided to write about how could we make things different? So that was a very important inspiration that affected me. Another really crucial mentor and partner in the work was my non gay co-council in Hawaii, Dan Foley, who brought that case when many of the gay organizations weren’t ready or were not willing to fight for marriage. And he invited me to come in as co-council and work with him and together we won the world’s first ever ruling in favor in the freedom to marry and showed that there was no good reason, and inspired this ongoing global movement. And this non-gay lawyer in Hawaii was a
huge part of how that got going. And our friendship and my getting to work together with him really saved my life. MK: And then I also wanted to ask, you and your partner, Chang, had gotten married in 2011 in New York. And so how is married life so far? EW: Married life is terrific. I feel extremely lucky to find someone who would put up with me, and someone who is as smart and good and funny as my beautiful husband, Chang. The day we got married, even though I had always talked about it, the power of marriage, and the power of the vocabulary of love and commitment and family as something we needed to claim and talked intellectually and preached, that we needed to work on this and so on. Actually experiencing it for myself really was the happiest day of my life. And I still feel the glow of that day more than five years later. MK: My final question. I interviewed Gavin Newsom about four or five years ago, and there’s been a lot of credit towards him. My question is how much credit does Gavin Newsom deserve for igniting the modern marriage equality movement? EW: Oh, I think it would be a huge overstatement to say he ignited the modern gay marriage movement. I mean I think it had begun before Gavin Newsom. You know, we had won this case in Hawaii that had launched the national conversation and really inspired the global movement. We had won, it was Mary Bonato and GLAD (GLBTQ Advocates and Defenders) and others, the victory in Massachusetts when couples began getting married. There had been many other contributions including by people even before I started working on it. But having said that, Gavin Newsom deserves, you know, enormous credit for the piece that he brought, and for his helping spark many more people to talk and think about gay people and marriage, and to give us a chance to really energize people. And even though the marriage that he tried to achieve didn’t stick, clearly he awoke a lot of people and invited a lot of people to join the cause, and he has remained a really good partner in the work ever since. So I don’t think we have to, I don’t think we should overstate it, but you don’t need to overstate in order to give him a lot of credit and be appreciative of the example he set. THE FREEDOM TO MARRY is available in the U.S. and Canada via Ro*Co Films on VOD and across digital platforms including iTunes, Amazon, and Google Play. MK Scott is Seattle based arts and public affairs blogger. Check out his blog at outviewonline.com.
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“The Right to Marry,” the world’s first marriage equality documentary, by Demian, is now available on DVD “The Right to Marry,” produced and directed by Demian, was originally released as a VHS video tape in 1996. It’s the world’s first documentary about the necessity of legal marriage for same-sex couples. It describes why marriage equality must be allowed for all adults. It outlines the struggles to get legal marriage, and informs the discussion, which helps counter the profusion of attacks on marriage equality, which continue unabated to this day. There are 13 interviews with lesbian and gay community leaders, along with impromptu, brief interviews with numerous people at the 1994 Seattle Gay Pride Parade. Interviews are conducted by Demian. The interviews: • Rev. Mel White – Stranger at the Gate: To be Gay & Christian in America • Richard Mohr – A More Perfect Union; Jacqui Johnston & Natalie Hanson – Their Unitarian church wedding; • Phyllis Burke - “Family Values: A lesbian mother’s fight for her son” • Frances Fuchs - Testimony of her relationship with Gayle Remick • Faygele benMiriam - Along with Paul Barwick, sued Washington state for legal marriage in 1971 • Benjamin Cable-McCarthy - With partner Marcial Cable-McCarthy, sued Calif. for legal marriage in 1993 • Tina Podlodowski (Seattle City Council) & Chelle Mileur • Kevin Cathcart - Executive director, Lambda Legal Defense & Education Fund • Susan Reardon - Co-director of the Hawai’i Equal Rights Marriage Project • Evan Wolfson - Co-counsel in Hawai’i
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suit; “The Marriage Project” director at Lambda Legal The rationale put forth in this 1996 documentary remains valid, and defines the values supporting current efforts to maintain legal marriage access. It’s vital that new generations be informed of the reasons for legal marriage, and of the struggles to get marriage equality. This video offers ammunition to challenge the ongoing profusion of attacks on marriage equality, and the LGBT community in general. The movie is designed to generate thoughtful discussion for use by community centers, study groups, reporters, schools, churches, libraries, politicians, and counselors. View a 7-minute excerpt here: http:// vimeo.com/demian7/right “The Right to Marry” DVD, has been re-edited from the original 1996 VHS video tape with improved edits, more identifying sub-titles, as well as a new text introduction and postscript. The DVD also has an optional English subtitle track, selectable by your remote control. At $15, the DVD costs half what the original VHS cost 20 years ago. “The Right to Marry” is available via: Amazon – http://amazon.com/dp/ B072JCNJZ7; CreateSpace - http://createspace.com/850062997 Other DVDs by Demian can be searched on Amazon using these key words: dvd demian sweet corn For more information about “The Right to Marry” and images of the main interviewees, please see: http://sweetcornmedia.com/right.html Courtesy of Demian
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