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Issue Twenty-Five

Pottery Shame Sorry Lynks Afrikka Sports Team Katy J Pearson Military Genius Folly Group U-Bahn Norman The Wants Slow Dance


Tomo Campbell, ‘Likewise, A Pleasure’ Oil on Canvas, 180cm x 150cm


Well, we’ve made it to April which feels like some

Slow Dance are arguably London’s most exciting

achievement. It’s a funny time to speak to bands, and

label, that’s if you want to restrict them to that tag. The

possibly to release a magazine but we’re glad you’re with

collective release, manage and host some of the most

us. As Coronavirus messes with our day to day lives and

interesting artists and sounds around and in the peak of

plans, it also takes grip of the band on the cover, Shame.

self isolation, we caught up with them via Zoom. Katy

The five piece recently returned from recording their

J Pearson joins us during a huge upturn in the weather.

second record in Paris and we gave frontman, Charlie

Looking out on a sunset, KJP talks us through her song

Steen a call before he escaped self isolation at his parents

writing process and learning to open up. Sports Team.

place for the fields of Glastonbury where he subsequently

Another album falling victim to the virus. As the band

live streamed himself playing on the skeleton of the

prepared to release their debut album via major label,

Pyramid Stage. Montreal’s Pottery are in the same boat.

Island Records, we gave frontman Alex Rice a call

As they braced themselves to unleash their debut album

where he questions the need for absolutist views and

‘Welcome to Bobby’s Motel’ via Partisan Records,

more. Making waves in small venues across the country

rescheduling took hold once again. The virus is a running

are Folly Group, Lynks Afrikka and Norman. We get in

theme in this issue but Pottery are taking it well. We dig

touch to talk about going slow, cancelling tours and jazz.

into the album and their worst motel experiences. It’s

Heading overseas we speak to three bands who have just

a mixed time for North London’s Sorry as they pair the

released their debut albums. The Wants from the US,

sorrow of having to cancel their US tour with the elation

Australia’s U-Bahn and Canada’s Military Genius. Rough

of releasing their eagerly awaited debut album. We ask for

Trade Books is the independent publishing arm of the

some further details.

famous record label of the same name. Their latest release looks at legendary venue, The Windmill and we speak to author Will Hodgkinson about the book and how his son

3 Lynks Afrikka Str8 Acting 5 Pottery Take Your Time 10 Sorry 925 13 B.D. Graft So Young: Artist Series 15 Military Genius Deep Web 19 Roof Dog Book Review 23 Slow Dance Records Collage 27 Katy J Pearson Tonight

has illustrated it.

29 Shame Acid Dad 34 Folly Group Butt No Rifle 35 Northern Rising The Golden Lion 37 Sports Team Here’s The Thing 41 The Wants Container 46 Norman Beef Ravioli 48 U-Bahn Right Swipe


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“It was exciting until coronavirus.” Sorry sound somewhat

So how far did you get into that Stateside tour?

down in the dumps as I get through to them on a call. It’s understandable given that the North Londoners have

Louis: We went to New York and were just about to go

just dropped their brilliant debut album into the current

to LA when we had to fly home. New York was on the

climate, along with being forced off their American tour

edge of being cancelled as well so that was lucky. It was

after only one date. It must be strange building towards

really amazing, given the circumstances, the turnout was

a moment that’s supposed to be filled with joy only for

really good. It was sold out but we thought a lot of people

the world’s mindset to be absorbed by more concerning

wouldn’t come. It was nice to not go over there for no

matters.

reason. We played a great show and people were really responsive. Hopefully we can get back out there.

Nevertheless, this is the reality of the situation and thousands of artists have been thrown into this uncertain

The album has been a long time in the making - how

territory in recent weeks. Like the rest of the world,

did it come together?

musical and beyond, all we can do is accept it. Nothing changes the fact they’ve put together a captivating debut

L: There wasn’t a turning point but we kind of built up

album which is a diverse statement of intent. Another

to it. We’ve spent a lot of the last two years just trying to

positive is that with the support of their listeners and

figure out how we wanted to do it. We wanted to figure

Domino - you get the sense that everything will come

out how we wanted to record it before just jumping into it.

good once this is over with.

That took a bit of time but once we worked that out it all came naturally. Domino were never rushing to get it out, if

Debut album ‘925’ is the sum of years on the road, honed

anyone was rushing to get it out, it was us. Loads of bands

through recording and experimenting. They’ve nurtured

were releasing around us so we felt like we had to do

the sounds you’ll hear over the last few years; there’s

something. I’m glad that we waited a bit though.

glamour, there’s rock and roll, as well as a morbid edge. This is a band who have just showcased a maturity which has lasted beyond the early buzz. With all this in mind we caught up with Louis O’Bryen, before vocalist Asha Lorenz joined the call halfway through.

Sorry Words by Rhys Buchanan, illustration by Maria Contreras Aravana

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You’ve been attached to a busy scene for quite some

L: I think all that stuff just comes naturally, we don’t

time so I guess that’s natural?

intend to make it dark or light, I feel like when something needs to be picked up it just kind of happens. The song

L: It didn’t affect how much we worked or how much

just goes where it’s meant to go. We try not to think about

music we were making. I think that’s because all the

that too much. The visuals tie-in with that as well. It

bands are so different and we’re different to the other

explores weird characters and taboo things. We wanted the

bands I think. So it didn’t get to us too much. There

visuals to be a bit otherworldly because the album feels

was this underlying thing of perhaps we should do it

like that.

quicker or something. We just listen to Domino as well, So was it a fairly fluid and organic writing process?

because they’ve been doing it for so long. If they weren’t pressuring us to do it then we didn’t feel that pressure either.

A: We just write quite a lot at home and we write songs in loads of different ways so it naturally comes out like that.

You’ve been working hard live for some time now - did

Also when we started it was easier to write rocky songs.

that experience help you map out this record?

Now we’ve been playing for ages we’ve been able to branch out a bit with the songs, especially now our friend

L: I guess playing live did, figuring out how we write the

Marco is involved who can provide sampled stuff. We’ve

songs. It was more the recording side of things where we

got to a place where we can play all the parts a bit more.

were figuring out how we wanted to do it. The first couple So what does the album title signify?

of singles were released, although we liked them and they served a purpose, we wanted to take it a bit further than that. We didn’t just want to go into a room, lay the track

A: It’s part of the ‘Rock ‘n’ Roll’ song - it’s a lyric from

down and that was it. We wanted to take it further than

it, it means something has reached pure silver but it’s not

that. The idea behind those mixtapes was to push another

like high-quality silver. It’s just a cool metaphor for doing

side to our music and experiment with recording. For the

our first thing that was kind of proper, but I don’t know,

album we wanted to find a happy medium between those

it’s just lots of things. It’s an abstract title because a lot of

two.

the lyrics are quite abstract so people can take what they want from it.

That makes a lot of sense - I guess it was nice not having to rush into anything?

Lastly - anything specific you wanted to achieve with this debut?

Asha: It has taken some time but I’m glad that we waited because we didn’t feel like we were in the right place

L: We wanted it to be more of a whole thing - we wanted

until we knew how we were going to do it. There are three

it to be an entity and to work well together but still have

tracks on there that we’ve played for a long time with the

fresh ideas there that still explore new stuff. The other

band, then a few off the mixtape and some newer ones, so

stuff we’d done was a collection and with this one we

we wanted to pick songs that were more developed, that

wanted it to work properly as one thing and for people to

would help the album fit together a bit, but also varied a

perceive it as they want.

bit so they weren’t all just one sound or genre. There’s a clear sense of darkness and grit to the sound which has become part of your identity...

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Sorry


www.bdgraft.com


How do you want people to feel when they see your work? Uplifted, hopeful, inspired. It’s also nice if my art makes people smile or laugh. Whose work do you admire and why? Too many to mention all of them, but I love mid-twentieth century abstract artists like Willem de Kooning and In the third instalment of our Artist Series we’ve

Helen Frankenthaler for their unrestrained expression

collaborated with Amsterdam-based artist, B.D. Graft.

and beautiful use of colour and composition. And David

One of our favourite artists discovered through Instagram.

Shrigley’s art for how simple and witty it is.

We’ve been sharing his work for a few years now and it seemed about time we collaborated. Using two pieces of

Does music influence your work at all?

his work we’ve put together a two-sided t-shirt depicting plants in his two most distinctive work styles; oil pastel

Definitely. I always listen to music whilst making art, and

drawing and painting yellow onto found imagery. We

I’m sure it seeps into what I’m creating. I also reference

caught up with B.D. Graft about his work and the

music a lot in my art. For example, my current exhibition

collaborative t-shirt.

in New York is called “Planted Thoughts”, which is named after Arthur Russell’s song “Planted a Thought”.

How did you get into making Art? Who’s your favourite new band? As a child I drew a lot, but as a teenager I stopped because skateboarding, music and writing became my creative

Lately I’ve been enjoying (Sandy) Alex G, IDLES, Dilly

outlets. It wasn’t until I was studying film and literature at

Dally, Shy Boys, Crumb, King Krule, and Chromatics.

university that I rediscovered my love for making art. My friend Geoff J. Kim had started making beautiful collages

Tell us a little about the t-shirt pieces...

and inspired me to give it a try. I did and became hooked. This eventually led to what I’m doing now.

The front image is from my “is it mine if I add some yellow?” project, which I use to explore questions of art

How do you go about starting a piece of work?

and ownership. The back image is an oil pastel drawing of a bouquet, in a style that I recently discovered and really

Usually I have an idea in my head and just go about

enjoy utilising. Both artworks feature plants because,

translating it straight onto paper or canvas. Sometimes I

well, I love plants. The older I get and the longer I’ve

use my iPad Pro to make a quick sketch beforehand, but I

been living in big, hectic cities, the stronger I feel the pull

generally like to just make a start and see where it goes.

towards nature. I see myself living on a farm in the middle of nowhere in a few years, haha.

Tell us about a typical working day... What can we expect to see from you in the near future? I usually start the day answering emails at home with a cup of coffee, then I take my dog Homer to the studio

I’ve started trying my hand at three-dimensional works

where we spend the rest of the day. If I need inspiration

(sculptures and ceramics), which I’ll be sharing with the

I’ll cycle to a museum or take Homer for a long walk. My

world soon. I also have a few cool collaborations coming

girlfriend has a 9 to 5 so I try to stick to the same rhythm,

up. Apart from that I just want to improve my craft and

so we can spend the evenings together.

have fun doing so.

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The Windmill in Brixton has been the vital breeding

Every year we go to SXSW with a new panel and

ground for a large amount of the bands we’ve featured in

showcase, and for SXSW 2020 I suggested we do one on

So Young over the last few years and so we owe a massive

the Windmill. I found it fascinating that this run down flat

debt to the place and the people behind the scenes.

roofed council estate pub, a former Irish boozer with a famously scary dog on its roof, should have become such

Will Hodgkinson has now cemented the Windmill’s

an important centre for underground music.

cultural importance in a new book published by Rough Trade Books and beautifully illustrated by his son, Otto.

In order to do a panel at SXSW you have to collect a certain number of votes, so I put out a tweet asking people

At its heart this book is about the way the small, dingy

to vote for our SXSW Windmill panel. Nina Hervé of

venues that we discover in our youth take on a spiritual

Rough Trade saw it and thought it would make a good

significance that sticks with us for the rest of our lives.

book. So the idea came from her, not me!

The relationship between Will and his son is very important too, not only visually with Otto illustrating

How did this book come about in the form and size it

the book, but both finding themselves frequenting the

has been released in?

Windmill, arriving together but parting ways upon entering. Otto with his friends and Will with the old guard

Initially it was going to be a Rough Trade pamphlet, but

such as landlord Seamus McCausland, booker Tim Perry

after a while I realised that it was going to be more of a

and regular, James Endeacott.

short book - about 20,000 words. That felt like the amount needed: I couldn’t see myself writing a full length book

We caught up with Will to learn more about his book,

on the Windmill, but at the same time there was too much

‘Roof Dog: A Short History of the Windmill’.

to say, too much history, to just do an essay. When we decided on having the illustrations, the emphasis was

Having first visited in 2010, what led you back to write

making a unique object as much as a book, hence the

about The Windmill?

embossed cover and the perforated flap that turns into a bookmark, containing a timeline of significant Windmill

I work with a guy called Crispin Parry, who runs a

events. That was Nina’s idea.

company called British Underground: they take significant movements in British music and export them to the rest of the world via Arts Council-funded showcases.

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Words by Josh Whettingsteel, illustrations by Otto Hodgkinson


Did the idea for it to be fully illustrated (as opposed to

For a start it is off the beaten track, so property developers

being accompanied by photos) come after writing it or

aren’t sniffing around. For another they keep the costs

before?

down, as anyone who has seen the state of the exterior will confirm. But I think it has survived because it is versatile.

That came at the beginning. I’m a middle aged guy and

Seamus, the landlord, set it up as a place for traditional

although I do go to the Windmill, it’s not like I can

Irish music, but when he saw the Irish community leaving

hang out there every night. My son Otto, however, was

the area and the place dying he had to think again. Tim

18 and he was very much part of a scene there: a lot of

Perry, the Windmill’s booker, is a former music journalist

his friends’ bands, like Roscoe Roscoe, Denh Izen and

who came on board in the early 2000s and he’s very good

Stepbrother, have all played and for him it has become

at spotting talent — not bands that will necessarily draw

something of a second home, a place of late teenaged

a crowd but ones that have something about them. Hence

freedom and discovery. He had just left school and was

Shame, the Fat White Family, Mika Levi, Goat Girl,

starting a foundation degree at Camberwell College of

Black Midi all having early gigs at the Windmill, and then

Art, so I asked Otto if he would provide the illustrations.

wanting to support it when they are big.

I requested that he draw a picture of the late Ben the Roof on the cover, and pictures of Damo Suzuki, former lead

Now small venues are facing the biggest crisis in a

singer of Can, the four members of black midi, and The

generation. At the time of writing we’re in near total

Rebel, aka Ben Wallers of Windmill legends the Country

lockdown and somewhere like the Windmill will likely

Teasers inside, because they were all acts we had seen

be empty for at least two months. It is better that the

together there. I had to hide in the corner while Otto hung

government have enforced rather than suggested a ban

out with his mates, mind you. The rest of the illustrations,

on pubs and venues because with any luck they can now

I left up to him.

collect some kind of insurance compensation, but it is going to be tough. We’ll really know what we’re missing

In the current state of affairs, venue closures are going

if the Windmill is forced to close down, but I think it will

to be an even bigger issue, but I feel like if any venue

survive. Seamus, Tim and the gang are pretty tough in

can survive this it’s the Windmill. What is it about the

their own way.

Windmill that’s meant it has already survived so long?

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www.roughtradebooks.com


Can you remember the moment you realised something special was happening at the Windmill in relation to the new crop of bands and artists that have frequented it in the last 5 or so years? I’m not sure I can pinpoint a moment, but I do remember going to see Damo Suzuki there a few years back and thinking something was going on. There were plenty of old geezers in the audience who grew up loving Can and so on, but there were loads of interesting looking people in their late teens and early 20s; the type of people who clearly bothered to seek things out. It was the return of the underground. And I thought: these cats have always been out there, people who want to delve into other worlds, who are curious and creative and want something more from life than just what is placed in front of them. Probably the real catalyst for the Windmill in the past decade has been the Fat White Family. They inspired a whole generation of South London bands to get up and do something and the Windmill was the place where you could do it. In their wake you can trace Shame, Goat Girl, Warmduscher and so on, and then an even younger generation of kids came along who can really play: black midi, Black Country, New Road, PVA. It is generally termed post punk, but that no longer fits. black midi are essentially a prog/free jazz band. PVA are indie dance. The Windmill is genre-fluid and long may it continue. Roof Dog: A Short History of the Windmill by Will Hodgkinson is available to buy now from www.roughtradebooks.com


Artists

Josh Whettingsteel Tomo Campbell Katie Benn

Editors Sam Ford

Josh Whettingsteel

Writers Al Mills

Harley Cassidy

Rhys Buchanan

Josh Whettingsteel Dan Pare

Eleanor Philpot Ross Jones Sam Ford

Cameron JL West

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Maria Contreras Aravana B.D. Graft

Michael Taylor

Otto Hodgkinson Marco Pini

Philip Lindeman Ramon Keimig

Laylah Amarchih REN

Cameron JL West Ian Moore

Cover Photos Tom Van Huisstede

Photos for Collage Brooke Rutner

Holly Whitaker

Callum O’Driscoll

Tom Van Huisstede

Art Direction

www.joshwhettingsteel.com

Special Thanks Jamie Ford Ross Jones

Cameron JL West Kai Fennell


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