
MINUTES OF THE EGM OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF SCOUTING IRELAND AND OF SCOUTING IRELAND SERVICES
Venue: The Helix, Dublin City University, Dublin Date: 6th October, 2018
Meeting Reference Number: NC 18003
A. PRESENT:
(1) Charles McGuinness – National Secretary
(2) Annette Byrne – National Treasurer
(3) All other attendees as listed in the Attendances Register
MATTERS DISCUSSED
1. Opening
The National Council was called to order by the National Secretary.
The opening thought was delivered by Eoghan Calnan, Communications Commissioner.
The National Council was addressed by:
• The National Secretary, Charlie McGuinness who requested a minutes silence for those ‘Gone Home’. The National Secretary then invited the gathered delegates to renew the Scout Promise. The National Secretary also informed the gathered members that the Scout Shop are present and have the proposed new uniforms on display.
• The Guest Speaker, Lars Kramm from the European Scout Committee, addressed the National Council. The National Secretary Charlie McGuinness then made a presentation to Lars Kramm in appreciation of his support and contribution to the National Council.
2. Standing Orders
The National Secretary, on behalf of the National Management Committee proposed that the National Treasurer, Annette Byrne, should Chair this meeting of National Council as the Chief Scout and Chief Commissioners were either absent or unable to take on the role.
Proposal seconded by Brian Smith.
The National Treasurer, Annette Byrne, was proposed as Chairperson.
Standing Orders (as circulated in advance) were proposed by the National Secretary
The following amendment to the Standing Orders was proposed by Brian Smith:
That Sub-Section 3.2 be inserted:
3.2. All motions as circulated by the National Secretary are validly on the agenda and cannot be withdrawn. They do not need to be proposed or seconded.
ACTION POINT / FOLLOW UP
Carried Carried

The Standing Orders, as amended, were proposed. Carried
3. Meeting Procedures and Appointment of Tellers
The National Treasurer, Annette Byrne addressed National Council and outlined the housekeeping details and meeting procedures and identified the Podium Managers
Standing Orders proposed by National Secretary
The following Tellers were nominated and approved by National Council: -
Brendan McNicholas – Chief Teller
Bill James
Niall Walsh
Jim Holmes
Ronan Collier
Brendan Hayden
Pat McCartin
Karolina Racka
Dean O’Sullivan
4. Matters arising
The National Council noted:
Michael Joyce
Aine Yeats
Paul Boyle
Lee Doyle
Emmet Merriman
Eoghan Kirby
Megan Lloyd
Shane Herlihy
Rob Lahiff
A vote of thanks to the members of the Governance Review Group for all of the time, dedication and hard work that they have given to this task.
Thanks to Annette Byrne and Charlie McGuinness for all of their work in these difficult times.
Annette Byrne reminded the gathered delegates that the Ballot boxes were open.
5. Motions and Proposals to National Council
Annette Byrne introduced Bill Holohan to National Council and invited him to outline his area of expertise and advice given to the NMC.
Bill highlighted that Company Law allows for the withdrawal of a Motion before the AGM / EGM to be withdrawn by the proposer.
Following a lengthy discussion – the NMC withdrew to prepare a statement to be made to National Council with regard to the proposed withdrawal of M4 and M5.
Meeting adjourned
6. Statement to National Council
The meeting resumed.
Annette Byrne addressed the gathered delegates and explained that the current board will resign tonight and the newly elected board will take up office then. Following legal advice the outgoing Board recommend that M4 and M5 are withdrawn from the Agenda today in order for the incoming Board to take legal advice surrounding the issues involved.
At present Scouting Ireland is an Association and a Company; should the National Council vote in favour of M1 and M2 today – Scouting Ireland will become a Company only and the new Board will oversee the winding down of the Association.

7. Minutes
With one amendment on item 2 which clarifies procedural process to change of Standing Orders the Minutes of the EGM of 30th June 2018 were adopted.
Meeting adjourned for lunch
8. Meeting resumed
Annette Byrne reminded National Council of the meeting procedures.
9. Report from Governance Review Group
Martin Burbridge reported on the work of the Governance Review Group (GRG) and recommended the proposals that have been put forward to the National Council. He expressed thanks to all of the members of the GRG for their massive effort and Trojan work.
The Governance Review Group received a standing ovation from National Council in recognition and appreciation.
Annette Byrne thanked the GRG for the huge amount of work and time they have given and demonstrated their commitment and dedication to Scouting Ireland.
10. Motions and Proposals to National Council
The members of National Council were advised that the number of votes for and against the Motion number 1 would be made known to National Council – but that the result would not be declared until the end of the meeting.
11. Results of voting – Motions and Proposals
Results of Motions and proposals as received by the National Secretary and referred by the National Management Committee – Appendix A to the Minutes of Extraordinary meeting of National Council October 2018
12. Results of voting – Board of Directors
The National Secretary advised that the results of the voting for members of the new Scouting Ireland Board had been counted and the successful candidates are:Board of Directors of Scouting Ireland
Lisa Barnes
Ned Brennan
Peter Garrad
Mary Hogg
Aisling Kelly
Pat Kidney
Dermot Lacey
Paul Mannion
Brian Smith
Adrian Tennant
The Chair thanked all candidates who had stepped up to the plate and put their names forward for a position on the new Board of Directors and commented that their willingness to undertake this task especially in the current situation is inspiring.
12. Conclusion
The Chair thanked everyone who had made National Council happen: the staff of the Helix, the speakers of the day, Pat Hollingsworth and crew, all of the Tellers and Podium Managers, and the National Office Team. She thanked Martin Burbridge and the GRG

team for the outstanding job they have done to bring Scouting Ireland to this juncture, and also Bill Holohan for providing technical and legal advice in plain English and with some humour.
Newly elected member of the New Scouting Ireland Board, Mary Hogg, invited the youth representatives present to stay on and meet with the New Board as they are the first people that the new Board would like to speak to.
The meeting concluded at 4:55
M-1
M - 2

NATIONAL COUNCIL EGM October 2018 – MOTIONS & PROPOSALS Motion
SCOUTING IRELAND SERVICES
By special resolution to adopt changes to the Company’s Constitution (as set out in the document which has been given to members) together with any additional amendments as might be required to that document by the Revenue Commissioners, the Charities Regulatory Authority, the Companies Registration Office or the World Scout Committee.
“EGM 30 June
NM1 That in accordance with Clause 14 of the Company’s current Memorandum of Association and Clause 2 of the Company’s current Articles of Association, the notice to put a motion for the adoption of a special resolution to an EGM to effect changes to the Company’s Constitution (as set out in the document which has been given to members) be and is hereby accepted together with any additional amendments as might be required to that document by the Revenue Commissioners, the Charities Regulatory Authority, the Companies Registration Office or the World Scout Committee.
(National Management Committee)
SCOUTING IRELAND SERVICES
By special resolution and subject to the approval of the Companies Registration Office, the Charities Regulatory Authority and the Revenue Commissioners to change the name of the Company to Scouting Ireland
(National Management Committee)

M – 3
SCOUTING IRELAND
1. To accept the terms of the Scouting Ireland Charter (as set out in the document which has been given to members).
(National Management Committee)
SCOUTING IRELAND
M – 4
M – 5
M-6 Rule 21
Until the renewal of registration in 2019, to request Scouting Ireland Services to hold the register of all categories of members of Scouting Ireland on the same terms and conditions of membership now enjoyed by them through Scouting Irelandand upon acceptance of such request to direct the National Secretary to transfer all details relating to membership to Scouting Ireland Services absolutely and upon completing of such transfer to terminate all membership.
(National Management Committee)
SCOUTING IRELAND
1. Subject to the directions of the Charities Regulatory Authority and the Revenue Commissioners to wind up Scouting Ireland and subject to the consent to the Charities Regulatory Authority and the Revenue Commissioners to transfer any funds remaining to Scouting Ireland Services.
That Rule 21 be altered to read as follows:
The Appointments of Scouting Ireland are:
Scout Group: Group Scouter Programme
Scouters Group
Leader Deputy
Group Leader
Group Spiritual/Religious
Advisor/Chaplain Group
Quartermaster/Bo’sun
Carried For – 678 Against - 38
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board

Group Trainer
Scout County: County Commissioner
Deputy County Commissioner
County Spiritual/Religious Advisor/Chaplain
County Programme Co-ordinator
County Training Co-ordinator
Scout Province: Provincial Commissioner
Provincial Training Co-ordinator
Provincial International Co-ordinator
Provincial Adult Resources Representative
Provincial Youth Programme Representative
Provincial Treasurer
National: Programme Commissioner
Training Commissioner
International Commissioner
Communications Commissioner
Camp Chief: National Campsite/Scout
Centre Team Leader Campsites/Facilities
Disciplinary Officer
National Secretary
National Treasurer
Chief Commissioner (Adult Resources)
Chief Commissioner (Youth Programme)
Chief Scout
(National Management Committee)
To view the Role Profile attached below in Appendix 1

M-7 Rule 25 That Rule 25 be altered to read as follows:
Notwithstanding the specific provisions in these Rules all
Appointments and/or Positions within and/or membership of Scouting Ireland may be cancelled, withdrawn or suspended by the National Management Committee but excluding from its membership for such decision, the National Secretary (or the Chief Scout where the Appointment for consideration is that of the National Secretary).
(National Management Committee)
M-8 Rule 28 That Rule 26 be altered to read as follows:
Membership of Scouting Ireland may be terminated by the National Management Committee:
a) By expulsion
b) By resignation
c) By non-payment of membershipfee
d) By failure to register as a memberannually
(National Management Committee)
M-9 Rule 28 That Rule 28 be altered to read as follows:
An individual may be expelled from membership of Scouting Ireland on the grounds of misconduct or acts not in accordance with the Scout Promise or breach of any terms or conditions attaching to membership of Scouting Ireland. Expulsion should be by notice in writing to that member and served personally or to the last known postal address of the member. Expulsion proceedings including rights of appeal shall be in accordance with Scouting Ireland’s Disputes Process
(National Management Committee)
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board

M-10 Rule 29
That Rule 29 be altered to read as follows:
Appeals will be conducted and concluded in accordance with Scouting Ireland’s Disputes Process.
M-11 Rule 31
That Rule 31 be altered to read as follows:
This Rule does not apply to any matters determined under the Disciplinary Policy: Section B of Scouting Ireland’s Disputes Process
After all procedures set out in these Rules for resolving disputes and differences have been exhausted, all disputes and differences whatsoever arising out of or in connection with the Constitution and Rules of Scouting Ireland are subject to the arbitration of a single Arbitrator who, failing agreement, shall be appointed by the President or Vice-President for the time being of the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators under the rules of the Irish Branch of the said Institute. Each party shall bear its own costs and the costs of the Arbitrator shall be borne by the parties equally. In relation to all matters referred to arbitration under this Rule the right to appeal is hereby excluded.
(National Management Committee)
M-12 New Rule 135A
That a new rule 135a be introduced as follows:
The Disciplinary Officer, whose terms and functions shall be set out in Section B of Scouting Ireland’s Disputes Process, is appointed by the National Management Committee for a term of three years. The Disciplinary Officer may seek assistance of Deputy Disciplinary Officers nominated by him or her to the Disputes Resolution and Appeals Panel for appointment to assist in the discharge of his or her duties to include the making of reports to the National Management Committee in the manner set out in Scouting Ireland’s Disputes Process. The appointment of a Disciplinary Officer may be cancelled, withdrawn or suspended by the National Management Committee.
(National Management Committee) Proposers explanation (M – 3 to M - 9):
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
Withdrawn
Principals to be pursued with the New Board
GP-1
The above proposals to amend the Rules of Scouting Ireland are made to support the work to date that has been undertaken in this area.
They also support the recommendations of the report entitled “A New Approach to Safeguarding” that was commissioned by Scouting Ireland last year. Equally such proposals also support the development of both the corporate governance and disciplinary procedures of Scouting Ireland being in line with best practice.
That this National Council accepts the uniform proposals as recommended by the Uniform Review Committee, as outlined in supporting document NCEGM1018-01-05-6 Uniform Support Document
(National Management Committee)