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MINUTES  OF  THE

ANNUAL  NATIONAL  COUNCIL MEETING OF

DATE: 20th &  21st April,  2013

SCOUTING  IRELAND

VENUE: Radisson  Blu Hotel, Rosses  Point,  Co Sligo

PRESENT:

1. Michael  John  Shinnick Chief  Scout.

2. Ian  Davy Chief  Commissioner  Youth  Programme.

3. Therese Bermingham Chief  Commissioner  Adult  Resources.

4. Sean  Farrell National  Secretary.

5. Fr  Dave  Kenneally – Chairperson  (National  Spiritual  Religious  Advisory  Panel)

6. All other  attendees  as  listed  in  the  Attendances’ Register.

AGENDA  FOR  THE  MEETING:

SATURDAY 20th APRIL,  2013.

10.00 •  Opening  Thought

•  Opening  Address  of  the  Chief  Scout

•  Address  by  Guest  Speaker

•  Meeting  Procedures  and  Appointment  of  Tellers

•  Approval  of  Standing  Orders

•  Approval  of  the  minutes  of  National  Council  201 2

•  Adoption of  the  Annual  Report

•  Adoption  of  the  Audited  Accounts  and  Financial  Report  of  Scouting  Ireland

•  Appointment  of  Auditors

•  Endorsement  of  the  Annual  Report  of the Scout  Foundations

•  Election  of  Honorary  Vice Presidents

• Matters  referred  by  the  N ational  Management  Committee

•  Motions  received  by  the  National  Secretary

11.30 Vision  2020  Presentation

12.15 Introduction  of  National  Youth  Representatives

12.30 Adult  Awards

10.00–16.00 Voting  for  positions  on  the  National  Management  Committee

13.00 M eeting  adjourned

SUNDAY  21ST APRIL,  2013.

10.00 Resumption  of  National  Council

• Opening  thought

• Opening  address

• World  Scout  Jamboree  2015  – Presentation

• Election  results

14.00 Closing  address  by  the  Chief  Scout.

DOCUMENTS  OF  THE  MEETING : (Circulated in Advance)

• Agenda and  Registration/Voting  Procedure

• Minutes  of  the  Meeting  of National  Council  2012.

• List  of  Motions.

• Annual  Report  of  Scouting  Ireland 2012

• Audited  Accounts  and  Financial  Report  of  Scouting Ireland

Audited Accounts  of Scout Foundations

• List  of  Candidates and Nominees for  Election

• Submissions to  National  Council  2013

• A  brief  Guide  to  Motions  or  Proposals

OPENING  THOUGHTS  &  ADDRESSES:

• Brian  Webster  Provincial Commissioner (Western  Scout  Province) w elcomed  all delegates  to  the  meeting  of  National  Council  2013

• Safety  Announcements

• Scout  Promise  Recital

• Scouts  Call  Recital

• Chief  Scouts  Opening  Address

• Keynote  Speaker – John  T  Murphy  (Gaisce)

RESOLUTIONS PASSED  AT THE  MEETING :

The  following  Resolu tions  were  passed  at  the  meeting:

1. APPOINTMENT  OF  TELLERS

Chief  Tellers

• Bill  James

• Mark  O’Callaghan

• Niall  Walsh

• Jim  Holmes

Tellers

• Peter  Walsh

• Mark  Lugwood

• Kayleigh  Malone

• Maurice  Carney

• Fearghus  Downes

• Jack  Walsh

• Ross Chambers

• Dion McCarthy

• Luke  Roberts

• Edel  Henderson

• Michael  Healy

• Niamh  McMorrow

• Doireann  Lawless

• Daniel  Henderson

• Sean  Bartlett

• Adrian  McGowan

• Aoife  Coyne

• Ellen  Thomas

1. APPROVAL  OF  STANDING  ORDERS

Standing  Orders  were  proposed  by  the  Chief  Scout  and  passed  by  a  show  of  hands  from the  delegates

2. MINUTES -­‐

The Minutes  of 31st  March,  2012 w ere approved  following  a  show  of  hands  by  the delegates.

3. ANNUAL  REPORT

Following  a  show  of  hands  by  the  delegates,  the  Annual  Report  was  adopted .

Matters  arising: In  reply   to Stephen  Synnott’s  concerns  that  the  National  Management Committee  were  exercising  undue  influence  on  the  members  with  regard  to  the  ‘Children’s Rights  Bill’ – the  Chief  Scout  stated  that  the National  Management  Committee is  the governing  body  between  National  Councils  and  that  they  did  not  presume  to  speak  on behalf  of  Scouting  Ireland  on  this  issue,  but  were  expressing  the National  Management Committee’s  opinion.

4. AUDITED  ACCOUNTS  AND  FINANCIAL  REPORT  OF  SCOUTING  IRELAND

The Audited  Accounts  and  Financial  Report of  Scouting  Ireland for  the  year  2012 were proposed to  National  Council.    Fr. Dave  Kenneally  Interim  National  Treasurer,  and  Fionan Lawlor,  Financial  Controller  provided  clarification on a  number  of  queries  from  the delegates.

The   Audited  Accounts  and  Financial  Report  of  Scouting  Ireland were  adopted following  a  show  of  hands  by  the  delegates.

Matters  arising:

• Item  21  page  19

ref.  Closing  Balance;

date  should  read  31st August

• Request  for  a  full  write  down  of  the  assets  of  Lough  Dan

• Concern that  funding  supplied  to  Groups  for  training  had  to  be  returned  because

Groups  could  not  avail  of  training  as  suitable  courses  had  not  been  provided – The National  Management  Committee  has  committed  to  ‘ring fencing’  the  funding  for training  and  the  CC(AR)  will  work  on  providing  the  most  efficient  training  necessary.

• Request  for  heading  ‘Sundries’  to  be  accounted  and  outlined

• Clarification  requested  of  ‘Computer  equipment’  as  listed  in  the  accounts

5. APPOINTMENT  OF  AUDITORS

The firm  of Price  Waterhouse Coopers  Ireland Chartered  Accountants  &  Registered Auditors was  appointed as Auditors  for  Scouting  Ireland.

6. ANNUAL  REPORT  AND  ACCOUNTS  OF  THE  SCOUT  FOUNDATIONS

The Annual  Report  and  Accounts  of  Scout  Foundations were  endorsed  by  show  of  hands from  the delegates.

7. ELECTION  OF  HONORARY  VICE PRESIDENTS

The  election  of  Honorary  Vice Presidents  of  Scouting  Ireland  was  approved  as  follows:

a) Martin  Burbridge

b) Donald  Harvey

c) Eoghan  Lavelle

d) Kenneth  Ramsey

e) Paul  Ring

VISION  2020  &  ELECTRONIC  VOTING

Standing  orders  for  National  Council  were  then  suspended  to  facilitate  a Vision  2020

presentation and  the  demonstration  of  an electronic  voting  system  for  National  Council.

Delegates  were  instructed  on  the  procedure  for  using  the  system  by  Claire  McAroe  and  Cathal Healy  who  conducted  a  series  of  trial  questions  and  requested  the  delegates to  vote electronically  for  their  choice  of  answer.

THE  SCOUT  SHOP

The  new  Scouts  casual  range  was  launched  at  National  Council  and  Dermot  McMullen Manager  of  the  Outdoor  Adventure Store  introduced  the  launch  and  pointed  out  that  the

regenerated  Scout  Shop  has  Scouting  Ireland  members  and  Scouting  relevance  as  its  principle

focus.

Supporting  the  Scout  Shop  is  supporting  Scouting  with  all  profits  going  back  into  the Association.

PRESENTATIONS

Ian  Davy  Chief  Commissioner  (Youth  programme) introduced  a  presentation  on  the  World

Scout  Moot  2013  in  Canada  and  invited  Steven  Cull  contingent  leader  to  speak  to  the delegates.

Steven  informed  National  Council  that  there  will  be  13  Rovers  travelling  to  Canada for  the  Moot  and  pointed  out  that  there  was  still  an  opportunity  for  additional  people  to  apply to  take  part.

Christy  McCann,  International  Commissioner  outlined  the  procedure  for  participation  in  ‘The Gathering  2013’  and  commented on  how  well  groups  have  embraced  the  concept  and  will proudly  wear  the  new  badge.

Ian  Davy,  Chief  Commissioner  Youth  Programme  reported  on  the  ‘Community  Celebration Week’  project  and  directed  delegates  to  the  Scouts.ie  website  where  a  promotional  video is available.

The  Scouting  Ireland  Youth  Representatives for  2013 – 2014 were  then presented  to  National Council;

SCOUT  SECTION

Orla  Ainsworth

Iona  Brennan

Sinead  Callanan

Stephen  McCollum

Dara  Murphy

Jill  Pitcher Farrell

Aoife  Quinn

Donal  Watson

VENTURE  SECTION

Niall  Fogarty

Aoife  Fricker

Ciara  Keegan

Aoife  Leahy

Megan  McLoughlin

Richard  Murray

Laura  O’Connor

Brendan  Tyrrell

Michael  Vaughan

ROVER  SECTION

Karen  Bradley

Denise  Delaney

Jack  Denning

Niamh  Donnelly

Zahaira  Esmau

Diarmuid  Finnan

Maire  Fitzgerald

Gary  Gaughan

Alison  Maher

Therese  Bermingham  Chief  Commissioner  Adult  Resources  informed  National  Council  that  a

very  pleasant  part  of  her  duties  is  to  present  awards  to  those  adults  who  have  contributed  so much  to  Scouting.   The  following  people  we re  then  presented  with Scouting  Irelands  Order  of

Cú Chulainn:

• John  Barron

• Hazel  Browne

• Ian  Davy

• Martin  Flahive

• Desi  McAroe

• Marion  McAroe

• Philip  Quinn

The  meeting  adjourned  at  13.10pm

The  meeting  reconvened  at 10.00am on  Sunday  21 st April

WORLD  SCOUT JAMBOREE  2015

National  Council  viewed  a  presentation  on  the  next  World  Scout  Jamboree  which  will  be  held in  Japan  in  2015.    Delegates  were  reminded that  it  is  necessary  to  register  online before 30th September,  2013  to  be  a  member  of  the  Scouting  Ireland  delegation  to  the  Jamboree.

ANNOUNCEMENT  OF  RESULTS

Following  the  completion  of  their  term  of  office;  the  outgoing  members  of the  National

Management  Committee  were  thanked  for  their  work on  behalf  of  Scouting  Ireland:

• Ian  Davy

• Therese  Bermingham

• Niall  Kenny

• Aidan  Smith

• Brian  Webster

• John  Watmore

Outgoing  members  of  the  Scout  Foundation  were  also  thanked  for  their  efforts on  behalf  of

Scouting  Ireland:

• Aidan  Brennan

• John  Reid

All  of  the  outgoing  members  then  vacated  the  stage  in  preparation  for  the  announcements  of the  results  of  the  votes  cast  by  the  delegates.

The  National  Secretary announced  the  following  candidates  as  elected  for  the  following positions of  the  National  Management  Committee:

• Chief Commissioner (Youth  Programme) Ian  Davy

• Chief Commissioner(Adult  Resources) Therese  Bermingham

• National  Treasurer Annette  Byrne

• National  Management  Committee Member Tom  Clarke

• Provincial  Commissioner  (Dublin  Scout  Province) Aidan  Smith

• Provincial  Commissioner  (Western  Scout  Province) Brian  Webster

• Provincial  Commissioner  (South  East  Scout  Province) John  Watmore

• Nominated  Director  of  the  Scout  Foundation Peter  Garrad

• Nominated  Director  of  the  Scout  Foundation Charles  McGuinness

MOTIONS

The  following  Motions  as  received  by  the National  Secretary and  referred  by  the  National

Management  Committee were  voted  on  as  follows:

1  – Honorary  Vice  Presidents

HONORARY  VICE-­‐PRESIDENTS

HVP 1 Honorary  Vice  Presidents:

To  elect  the  following  people  as  Honorary  Vice Presidents  of  Scouting  Ireland:

Martin  Burbridge

Donald  Harvey

Eoghan  Lavelle

Kenneth  Ramsey

Paul  Ring

(National  Management  Committee)

2  – Motion

MOTION

M 1 Article 38 That this National Council am end Article 38, by the a ddition of (new sub section) as follow s:

·∙ six representatives of:

(i) the Provincial Youth Forum for Scouts

(ii) the Provincial Youth Forum for Venture S co uts

(iii) the Provincial Youth Foru m for Rover Sco uts.

(National Youth Forum fo r Ven ture Sco u ts)

CARRIED

FELL

3  – Notice  of Motion

NOTICE  of  MOTION

M 1 Article 2 That  Notice  of  Motion  be  accepted  to  amend Article 2 of  the  Constitution  to  read:

Scouting  Ireland  is  a  voluntary,  uniformed,  non formal  educational  movement  for  young  people.

It is  independent, non party  political,  open  to  all without  distinction  of  origin,  race,  creed,  gender, sexual  orientation,  or  ability,  in  accordance  with  the purpose,  principles  and  method  conceived  by  the Founder,  Robert  Baden Powell  and  as  stated  by  the Word  Organisation  of  the  Scout  Movement.

WITHDRAWN

4  – Rule  Changes

R  1

R  2

R  3

RULE  CHANGES

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule 119 to  read  as  follows:

All  voting,  apart  from  voting  in  an  election  for  any Appointment  by  the  National  Council,  shall  be  by open  show  of  voting  cards  or  by  using  an  electronic voting  system.

If  the  vote  is  taken  by  open  show of  voting  cards  the  vote  may  be  taken  by  secret ballot  where  a  proposal  for  such  is  accepted  by  one third  of  those  members  present  and  voting.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule 25A to  read  as  follows:

A  Member  by  agreement  may  temporarily withdraw  from  any  Appointment  or  Position  they hold  for  an  agreed  period  of  time.

National  Management  Comm ittee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule  59 to  read  as follows:

Programme  Scouters  are  Scouters  nominated  by the  Scout  Group  Council,  approved  by  the  Group Leader  and  the  County  Commissioners, and appointed  by  the  Chief  Commissioner  Adult

CARRIED FOR  313 AGAINST  150

CARRIED FOR

228 AGAINST    142

CARRIED

R  4

R  5

New  Rule

R  6

R  7

New  Rule

Resources  on  behalf  of  the  National  Management Committee.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule  56 to  read  as  follows:

Deputy  Group  Leader(s)  may  be nominated  by  the Scout  Group  Council,  recommended  by  the  County Commissioner  and  appointed  by  the  Chief Commissioner  (Adult  Resources)  on  behalf  of  the

National  Management  Committee.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  introduce  a new  rule to  read  as  follows:

The  Appointment  of  Deputy  Group  Leader  may  be cancelled,  Withdrawn  or  suspended  by  the  Chief Commissioner  (Adult  Resources)  on  behalf  of  the National  Management  Committee  on  the recommendation  of  the  Scout  Group  Council  or  the County  Commissioner.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend   Rule93(A)  to  read  as  follows:

The  Deputy  County  Commissioner  may  be nominated  by  the  Scout  County  Board, recommended  by  the  County  Commissioner  and appointed  by  the  Chief  Commissioner  Adult Resources)  on  behalf  of  the  National  Management   Committee.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  introduce  a new rule to  read  as  follows:

The  appointment  of  a  Deputy  County Commissioner  may  be  cancelled,  withdrawn  or suspended  by  the  Chief  Commissioner  (Adult   Resources)on  behalf  of  the  National  Management Committee  in  accordance  with  the  Rules.

National  Management Committee

CARRIED

CARRIED

CARRIED

CARRIED

R  8

R  9

R  10 New  Rule

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule  88 to  read  as  follows:

The  County  Commissioner  is  a  Scouter  nominated by  the  Scout  County  Board  and  appointed  by  the Chief  Commissioner  (Adult  Resources)  on  behalf  of the  National Management  Committee  for  a  term  of three  years  and  is  eligible  for  re  appointment  by the  Chief  Commissioner  (Adult  Resources)  on behalf  of  the  National  Management  Committee upon  the  nomination  of  the  Scout  County  Board  for one  further  term  of  three  years.

National  Management  Committee

That  this  National  Council  agrees  to  amend Rule92 to  read  as  follows:

The  appointment  of  the  County  Commissioner  may be  cancelled,  withdrawn  or  suspended  by  the  Chief Commissioner  (Adult  Resources)  on  behalf  of  the National  Management  Committee  in  accordance with  the  Rules.

National  Management  Committee

That  a new  rule be  introduced  to  read  as  follows: No  amendment  to  the  age  ranges  of  the  youth members  of  Scouting  Ireland  shall  be  made  by National  Council  otherwise  than  on  Notice  of Motion  duly  given  and  accepted  by  a  simple majority  at  the  meeting  of  the  National  Council immediately  prior  to  the  meeting  at  which  the Motion  is  to  be  moved.

52  Dublin  (Shankill)  Scout  Group

CARRIED

CARRIED

W ITHDRAWN

GP  1

GP  2

GP  3

GP  4

GP  5

GENERAL  MOTIONS

That  this  National  Council  instructs  the  NMC  to conduct  a  review  of  the  cost  of  our  professional resources  and  report  back  to  the  association  within  9 months  with  a  detailed  report  on  all  current   expenditure  and  where  possible  suggestions  to  reduce expenditure.  This  review  should  take  account  of  the changes  to  our  government  grants,  the  probability  of further  cuts  and  look  at  all  cost  bases  associated  with the  running  of  our  professional  resources  to see  if  and where  efficiencies  can  be  made.

6th Dublin  (Leeson  Park)  Scout  Group

That  this  National  Council  instructs  the  National Management  Committee  to  return  to  National  Council 2014  with  the  necessary  Motions  and  /or  Proposals for  consideration  to  formally  cover  the  patronage  of our  Association  in  the  Constitution  and/or  Rules  of Scouting  Ireland

North  Cork  Scout  County

That  this  National  Council  decides  to  amend  the standing  orders  of  National  Council  to  instruct  the National  Management  Committee  to  publish  full numerical  results  of  all  elections  at  National  Council, no  later,  that  30  days  after  the  National  Council.

North  Cork  Scout  County

That  this  National  Council  instructs  th e  National Management  Committee  to  publish  the  full  numerical results  of  all  elections  at  National  Council,  no  later, than  30  days  after  that  National  Council.

North  Cork  Scout  County

That  this  National  Council  requests  that  the  National Management  Committee  introduces  postal  voting  for Scouting  Groups  unable  to  attend  National  Council.

CARRIED

GP  6

WITHDRAWN IN  FAVOUR OF  GP4

CARRIED

111  Dublin  (Springfield)  Scout  Group FELL

That  this  National  Council  requests  that  the  National FELL

GP  7

GP  8

GP  9

GP  10

GP  11

Management  Committee  introduces  postal  voting to elect  National  Officers  and  members  of  the  National Management  Committee.

111  Dublin  (Springfield)  Scout  Group

That  this  National  Council  requests  that  the  National Management  Committee  attach  photographs  on ballot  papers  of  members  who  are  seeking  election  as National  Officers  or  as  members  of  the  National Management  Committee.

111  Dublin  (Springfield)  Scout  Group

That  this  National  Council  instructs  the  National Management  Committee  of  Scouting  Ireland  to  lobby the government  on  the  strongest  possible  terms  to ensure  that  the  access  that  is  currently  enjoyed  by members  of  Scouting  Ireland  on  Coillte  owned property  is  maintained,  by  seeking  as  far  as  possible, to  have  the  current  access  registered  as  an  easement on  title  in  favour  of  Scouting  Ireland.

Tolka  Scout  County

That  Scouting  Ireland  publicly  acknowledges  the importance  of  forestry  access  for  Scouting  events  and actively  supports  the  "Save  Our  Forests"  campaign.

103  Dublin  Scout  Group

This  National  Council  will  seek  to  ensure  that  existing access  to  forestry  areas  is  maintained  for  Scouting  and recreational  purposes  in  the  event  of  the  sale  of Coillte  by  Government.

103  Dublin  Scout  Group

That  this National  Council  does  everything  in  its  power to  prevent  the  sale  of  state  forests  and/or  harvesting rights  to  commercial  entities,  to  ensure  continued sustainable  forestry  practices  and  continues  access  to areas  of  open  countryside  available  to  all  members  of the  general  public  and  scouters  alike.

112  Dublin  (Knocklyon)  Scout  Group

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That  this  National  Council  extends  the  approval  for Beaver  Scouts  to  overnight  for  up  to  2  nights  in Ireland,  to  also  include  the  UK  and  Isle  of  Man  at approved  Scouting  sites,  also  that  the  period  of  time away  from  home  for  Beaver  Scouts  is  increased  to  60 hours.

Cluain  Toirc  Scout  County

That  this  National  Council  requests  the  International Commissioner  to  make  available  an  online  resource detailing  information  on  Scout  campsites  abroad  that have  been  used  by  members  of  Scouting  Ireland  and also  contact  details  for  these  groups.

Cluain  Toirc  Scout  County

This  National  Council  instructs  the  National Management  Committee  to  commend  and  encourage the  Minister  for  Justice  in  enacting  legislation  to  force Internet  Service  Providers  operating  in  Ireland  to block  at  source  all  Child  Abuse  material  on  their systems  and  that  the  Association  will  make  clear publically  the  will  of  National  Council  to  support  the campaign  to  remove  this  threat  to  young  people.

Slieve  Bloom  Scout  County

This  National  Council  instructs  the  Scout  shop  to ensure  that  adequate  supplies  of  the  adventure  skills badges  are  maintained  in  stock  at  all  times  in   particular  the  badges  for  stages  1 4.

103  Dublin  Scout  Group

This  National  Council  Instructs  the  Chief Commissioner  (Youth  Programme)  to  standardise  the method  used  to  calculate  the  maximum  age  of  a youth  m ember  eligible  to  take  part  in  any  National Event  to  the  age  of  the  youth  member  on  the following  31st August.

103  Dublin  Scout  Group

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This  National  Council  instructs  the  Chief Commissioner  (Youth  Programme)  to  standardise  the method used  to  calculate  the  qualifying  age  for  a youth  member  applying  for  an  award  to  be  the  age  of

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the  youth  member  on  the  previous  1st  September.

103  Dublin  Scout  Group

That  this  National  Council  ensures  the  five  National Scout  Centres be  available  for  use  by  youth  members in  priority  to  adult  scouters  during  the  peak  camping season  for  Irish  Scouts – September  through  October and  March  through  June.

112  Dublin  (Knocklyon)  Scout  Group

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CLOSING  ADDRESS

In  closing  the  meeting,  M ichael  John  Shinnick  delivered a closing address He thanked  all delegates  for  attending  the  meeting and for  their contributions  to  the  Association

The  Western  Province  then  handed  over  the  Candle  of  Unity  to  the  Southern  Province  who  will host  National  Council  in  2014.

The  Chief  Scout  then  wished  all  delegates  a  safe  journey  home  and  officially  closed  the meeting.

The meeting of  the Annual  National Council of Scouting  Ireland was closed by Michael  John Shinnick at 2.10pm  on Sunday  21 st April, 2013.

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