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WASHINGTON - Both the Moscow. Governments of Moroccan Foreign Minister Communist nations and the such countries as Saudi Mohammed Boucctta and West for different reasons Arabia, Jordan, Morocco Kuwaiti Foreign Minister are collaborating in the and Egypt worry that a Ahmed Sabah. Moscow's antl-semltic United Nations and perhaps dissolved PLO would cause ouUldcn&nri(rprevEnt-the—itrrenmantrtoierrorteeano^—prepaganda-MastSr-pieked disintegration of the sabotage their regimes and up by anti-Israel elements in Palestine L i b e r a t i o n topple them with the help of the West and the Third Organization. Observers Moslem fundamentalists or World, are that Israel by its Lebanon action is practicing here summarized the basis leftists. for such collaboration In the latest PLO-Soviet "genocide" against "the ' A r a b Palestinian people" and that following the unanimous UN d e v e l o p m e n t , Security Council's decision diplomatic sources disclosed "the Jews arc doing to the - including the Soviet Union (July 5), Soviet Foreign Palestinians what the Nazis and the U.S. — colling for Minister Andrei Gromyko did to the Jews." At the UN, resumption of supplies and told Farouk Kaddoumi, the the Soviet is leading in restoration of electricity in PLO's foreign affairs chief, support of constant antiWest Beirut where the PLO that the USSR would not Israel resolutions that, in was trapped by Israeli become militarily involved effect, keeps the stigma of in Lebanon but would give its publicity off Soviet troops. The Soviet* and their full diplomatic and political depredations in Afghanistan, adherents are demanding support to the PLO. Kod- Latin America, Africa, and the PLO be preserved as a do urn I, who said in mid-June Poland. The West, paced by viable entity to maintain that the PI/) would continue their hold within the Arab its efforts to destroy Israel, media that long been antiworld, o long-standing was accompanied to the Zionist or critical of Israeli meeting by (Continued on Page 4) political principle in Moscow

By Trudr II. Kcltlmon White Ifnunr correspondent WASHINGTON DC. In ;iti interview just prior to his resignation n* Secretary of Stale Alexander M, Ifnig Jr. offered his views on the \/-\>:>m>n crisis I hat helps explain his differences »ilh the White House. Speaking after Israeli Prime Minister flegin departed Washington, the Secretary outlined some of his views on Israel's objectives in l.ebanon, including the withdrawl of nil foreign troops and the disarming of PI.0 forces. Here are excerpts from the 'JOminutc CXCIUHIVC interview • (In? last he jyvdilwl ;i.i Secretary of State, (j: What'* thr solution to thr Lebanon rrl»l»? A: The Mltuiion m i^-tunuit offers a great strategic opportunity for the rmiitrr.iU1 Anib world, lot the United .States, and .itmve all for the ' tortured 'people ami populations of f x'lunun who have been under Ihe heel of an international lerrorist (itgatiiialirm and terrorized, plagued and brutali/cd since entry of Hit- I'l.O into that country in the mill IWO's The sittiiition developed after the expulsion of Ihe hardcore Palestinian movement from Jordan In the early l'J70s. Now Ihe Mideast is once riK-nn wrenched hy the horrors of war. Many people criticize l.srael for overreaclion, and indeed, that has been Israel's pattern in a military Kense since the founding of Ihe Mate of Israel in IW8. Today, the West is facing the judgment — should, or ran we insist on arrangement* which will leave the Palestinian terrorist organization intact as an armed extraterritorial clement within the sovereign borders of Lebanon? The answer to this question is a resounding no. This is not a pro-Israel policy. It is not even necessarily - although it is - n pro-Lebanese policy, or a prcMmoderate Arab policy. All of the moderate Arab states arc threatened by the Palestinian terrorists movement. It is. rather^ in the vital interest of the United States, whose values reject international terrorism, whatever form it takes; whether p y y j ^ has been armed and abetted by the Soviet Union ~— or

Kosher deli opens Steven Rod, executive director of the Jewish Community Center, was first In line Tuesday for the opening of Bagel Joe's Dell adjacent to the Bagel Bin at 1215 South IIOth Street. The kosher delicatessen is under the supervision of the Voad Hakashruth of Omaha, the group which also supervises kosher bakeries and a kosher meat market. In being the first customer, Mr. Itod fulfilled a pledge to the owner, Joe Bretack. The pledge — made by Mr. Rod upon bis arrival In Omaha — -What this town needs Is a good koihtr dell...If you open one, I'll be your Om,customer," Hostessing Is Audrey Epstein.

whether it is a group in a truly autonomous sense. It is important for the West to keep its eye on the historic perspective of the tragedy that is Ix-banon today and not relmpose the condition* which brought about this tragic situation. (): lluw was Israeli Prime Minister llegin't visit to Washington? Were ihirc any provocation*? A: Mr. licgin never provokes me. I think I know where he comes from. He Is a patriot. He is a man who is isolated, ns are his people, in an unfriendly cnviornment. He is a man who, with vision and statesmanship, can change that situation with flexibility and understanding for the agonies of the Palestinian people, which also must be considered. Mr. Hcgln had a very difficult time with the Foreign Relations Committee of Ihe Senate, but his meeting with Ihe House Foreign Affairs Committee was much easier. Q: You've «prnl many hour* with Prime Minister Begin, How would you describe him? . A: llt'isa leader with a great burden.

Q: Do you agree with Premier Begin'* Incursion into Lebanon7 A: It's not my role to agree or not. Mr. Begin explains the motivations for actions taken one way. The Israeli assessment presents one picture, other sources present another. And the Lebanese government presents yet a third picture. Israel has justified its action as the result of a continuation 'of terrorism from the Lebanese territory against the populations of Northern Galilee. Israel insists that the initial reaction of its forces under the provocation of an assault on her diplomat In London (Ambassador Shlomo Argov) was a surgical strike against two PLO installations south of Beirut, neither of which resulted in the noncombntanl casualties attributed to them. But the subsequent strikes against Beirut which have generated such criticisms, Israel insists were the result of extensive rocket and artillery fire from southern Lebanon into northern Galilee. Q: What has been the impact on U.S. relations with Israel as a result of Premier Begln's Incursion Into Lebanon?

(): Why U he depicted to negatively In Ihe press? A: In some ways, he has always been bndly treated by the press. Hut he is not going to gel his report card In history based on whether or not the press has been good or bad to him. He will be measured by whether or not he preserved and furthered the interest of his people and contributed to peace and stability In the region (the Middle (Cast).

A: Every resort to force by Israel has its cost. It is difficult for those not immediately involved to comprehend or accept violent Israeli response to an accumulation of terrorists provocations, any one of which appears less significant than the Israeli reaction. It is precisely this phenomenon that has historically made the combating of terrorism so difficult.

<}: Why are you unwilling lo criticize Ururl publicly? A: I believe in conducting diplomacy among friends as friends, and not under Ihe glare of public posturing, and criticism in n manner in which states deal directly with one another in quiet diplomacy and in a manner that each other's positions are mutually understood.

Q: What effect will the Lebanon crisis have on the autonomy talks? A: Following an outcome in Lebanon which may yet eliminate the threat of an armed PLO nation within a nation_ to Israel's northern border, Israel must face - in a more realistic way —the problems, aspirations and needs of the Palestinian people. Q: Where do the autonomy talks stand now? A: At one time, the focus of the negotiating parties was on the differences thai exist between them. Now the toaa is on bridging those differences. We narrowed those differences substantially. But more remains to be done. There (Cbntfnuedon P a g e l F ™ '"

Q: Do)ou agree with Begin and hi* policies? A: Not always. But it's not a question of being for a personality or a leader or against one. ft Is a question of espousing and adhering to a set of principles designed to ^?ni£Y£Al!}cri?.;?!s')58' interests lnj{ss_rcglon In tune with America's fundamental values." "


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