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UNANIMOUS 2018 U.S. National Champion Arabian English Pleasure Junior Horse UNANIMOUS 2017 U.S. National Champion AEPA Arabian Horse Times $100,000 Arabian Saddle Seat Futurity

IXL Noble Express x Bonita Afire, by Afire Bey V Owned by Maroon Fire Arabians | For breeding information | Shea Stables • 810.329.6392 | Kiesner Training • 865.556.0412 www.AfireBeyV.com

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by Christy Egan

aroon Fire’s superb, young blood bay stallion Inception is the obvious heir to more than one outstanding breeding program. The character and refinement he personifies owes a great deal to his sire, National Champion Park horse, IXL Noble Express+, his grandsire Afire Bey V, Leading All-Time Sire of Arabian Champions, and most certainly to his splendid dam lines, particularly his incomparable tail-female granddam, the Barbary daughter, Bacharah. But his flawless conformation, size and quality are indicative of both the multi-decade breeding program of Maroon Fire Arabians and the much older, legendary program of Varian Arabians. “The important qualities that Inception brings to the show ring and the breeding barn are many,” says Tim Shea, “but the combination of his exceptional length of neck and his strong hind leg with great flexion in the hocks is very rare in Arabians. It’s been our experience that our best breeding stallions have great shape to their necks and Inception’s is the best we’ve ever seen.” Everyone breeds for quality improvement in horses: more type, better motion, better shape of neck and correct conformation, but for all of the times we breed for the right combination, we are rarely more than partially successful. The frosting on the cake is, of course, to get everything right and to have the horse able to pass those good traits on to another generation. The Linigers began their program with mares sired by the Comet son *Eter, crossed them back on the Bay El Bey son, Barbary, and then bred those mares, and others, to Afire Bey V. The Afire Bey V daughters were crossed on IXL Noble Express+, an MHR Nobility son specifically purchased to bring certain dynamic characteristics to the Maroon Fire program. “Adding IXL Noble Express+ raised the motion factor in our program up several notches,” Tim notes. “Also, the hip and hocks from that bloodline were invaluable, rare elements we wanted to incorporate. IXL Noble Express+ is a very pretty Arabian horse as well. He was Ohio Buckeye Halter Champion and was top ten (actually third), in the open Halter Stallions at the U.S. Nationals. As a sire, he has passed on his motion, hocks and hip, as well as his refined Arabian type and correct conformation.” Ar abian Horse Times | 2 | English • 2019

Right after his first unanimous National win in the AHT $100,000 Saddle Seat Futurity in 2017, Inception’s trainer, Joel Kiesner, shared that the stallion was “very rare” and that he was “…great to train, great to show and represents absolutely everything good in his pedigree and nothing bad.” The Linigers, the Sheas and a lot of America’s English Arabian breeders obviously agreed whole heartedly because the push to breed to this exceptional horse has been very strong. About half of the 2018 Inception foal crop, his first, were out of Afire Bey V daughters, but included daughters of that illustrious sire’s sons and grandsons, plus several by *El Ghazi and Aploz. There were also several Saddlebred and Dutch Harness mares bred that produced 2018 offspring. Breeders to Inception are applauding their 2018 and 2019 foal size, correct conformation, elegant, long necks, long legs, good bone and exceptional Arabian type. Meanwhile, Inception is preparing for the 2019 show season with two unanimous English National Championships to his credit. His mare book for 2019 is impressive as well. A dream “book” you might say, reminiscent of the famous mares of show fame and pedigree that once lined Bell Road in Scottsdale to breed to the great *Bask. With one foal crop on the ground and another starting to make its appearance nationally, there is much to hope for at the homes of Maroon Fire Arabians and Shea Stables. n

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Todayâ€™s

SADDLE SEAT HORSE

An energetic, high-stepping, high action horse with a naturally upright neck and high head carriage who responds well to a rider who must make the ride look effortless, and stay still and well-formed on the horse, sitting upright, with shoulders back and posting that is graceful and quiet.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We are a breeding and training farm, training what we raise and what we breed. We have two breeding programs, Maroon Fire Arabians and Shea Stables’; both in the same location. We’ve had Afire Bey his whole career, IXL Noble Express, and now Inception, who was bred by Maroon Fire Arabians. The Linigers have about 15 to 20 broodmares, the Sheas 15 to 20.

TIM SHEA

When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? Decent size, they don’t have to be a great big horse; straight legs, a great neck, high and well-shaped relatively straight tail, and in my opinion, a lot of the really athletic horses have that really extreme long shoulder and a high defined wither. I like colts that have a bony, loose look to them, I don’t like to see colts that are round and pudgy, where you can’t see the skeleton. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We start our purebreds in the fall of their 2-year-old year, and for some of the Half-Arabs, a little sooner. We start them barefoot and probably do more cantering than we do trotting that first year. Most 3-year-olds won’t make it; a few will. For most, they just can’t get that organized in a year’s time. In today’s climate, it seems like people are taking a lot more time developing horses, which is a good thing. There are even some 4-year-olds that don’t make it. Because of the amount of emotion, carriage and impulsion that they have to have in the saddle seat discipline, many probably won’t be ready until they are even five. It is important that in developing young horses, if an issue comes up with them, that you back off and slow the training down or lay off them for a while. That is what we do here.

SHEA STABLES ST. CL AIR, MI

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I think it’s a good thing. Maturity is just like the word says, and 4-year-olds are not mature in this breed. I think a lot of horses will last a lot longer if they aren’t pushed into maturity classes. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? Let’s say that they didn’t have age groups at regionals, but an adult division and junior exhibitor division; there would be less people qualifying at the regionals. Some would be forced into qualifying at regular horse shows which would raise the entries at those shows. I haven’t thought about it that much, so would like to hear the opinions of other people in the industry. ■

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. I live and breathe the Arabian horse. I’ve been a trainer since the 80s, training with some of the greatest of all time, including Gene and Ray LaCroix, Stanley G. White and Tim Shea. From Michigan, to now California, my focus is English, western and show hack. I’m a lifer … I will ride until I can’t get my leg over a horse. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? I look at many things: feet, legs, shape of the hind leg, shortness of back, slope of shoulder; they all come into play. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? When looking at 2- coming 3-year-olds, every horse is different; it depends on the individual. Some are ready; some are not strong enough, physically and/or mentally. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? The best thing that has happened to our shows as of late are that these classes give breeders more reason to breed. These classes help them to recoup their investment; give them hope. Amateurs like them also, as they will purchase horses just for these classes. People are breeding and selling more because of these opportunities. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? It’s a lot to ask a horse to go again for another class. I love to show, so it would be exciting, but still, a lot to ask. The Arabian way is to show, show, show. It would require some thought. I’m not sure judges could get them in and out quick enough before they are used up, plus many show in open and AOTR; so more work for trainers also.

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JIM LOWE LOWE SHOW HORSE CENTRE SOMIS, CA

Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. VHTCâ€™s 125-stall training/breeding operation focuses on saddle seat horses and riders. We keep approximately 90 horses in full training and breed 8-10 mares a year to the top English stallions in the breed. We also run Atlanta Riding Club which offers services to the public; a much needed national program in our industry to bring new riders to our breed. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We look for the following traits in order of importance: 1.) A willing and game attitude. All the talent in the world will not make up for a bad disposition. 2.) Conformation. Low hocks, short cannons, high neck out of the withers with enough throat to fold their neck into a pretty picture, enough quality and beauty to be attractive in the ring, a short back for strength and a straight tail. For English prospects, we want strong hock motion and a fluid shoulder. Small, tight ears are a plus.

VICKI HUMPHREY VICKI HUMPHREY TRAINING CENTER CANTON, GA

When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We long line our 2-year-olds in November, then start them under saddle in January. By March we try to determine their physical and mental progress. At that point, we turn some back out to grow up and proceed with the more mature ones. When we determine our futurity entry prospects, we continue with them at a steady pace and let them tell us whether they are ready or not at three. We are determined not to stress or permanently damage a horse for the sake of a class at a show.

In my mind, horses should compete in Maturity classes before Amateur classes. Now, my riders show in Amateur at four and Maturity at five. That seems backwards to me. As a breeder, in an industry struggling to grow, this change hurts me. I was selling horses at four after their Maturity class very successfully. Waiting until age five to prove they are Amateur horses, is an added expense. We are an industry that should be providing options, not limiting them.

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I have been opposed to the change since it happened and am in favor of making it a 2-year option, 4-6 years. Horses mature at different ages and riders have different abilities.

What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? If we limited the cut classes, that would be a great, fun option.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. One of the things I look for is a beautiful silhouette with good Arabian type: a high tail carriage and with a hindquarter and loin strong enough to lift the forehand as the horse goes forward down the rail. Beyond the silhouette, I look for horses that are well constructed, balanced over their four feet with a high wither and a very stretchy, flexible up-right neck. I look for movement and how all the parts of the horse coordinate together. Does the horse lift its knees naturally, for instance? Does the hind foot step over the front hoof print? Is there overall flexibility in the ribs? How is the neck set on at the base? Do they have an open shoulder? When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? When the horse is both physically and mentally mature enough to do their job. That can happen at age three, four, or even older. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I don’t really have an opinion about that except to say that 4-year-olds can be shown successfully by amateurs and they most likely want to show their horses in significant classes such as the Maturity.

JACQUE THOMPSON

What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? A grand championship would be more work on horse trainers that are ready to get home after a long show of qualifying themselves, their horses and their amateurs for U.S. Nationals. But nevertheless, I think it’s a fantastic idea to have a grand championship because it would create excitement for the end of the show and, hopefully, put some more spectators on the rail. Growing crowd interest in our classes is a good way to attract new enthusiasts and, therefore, clients to our breed.

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SMOKY MOUNTAIN PARK ARABIANS, LLC LENOIR CIT Y, TN

Elimar Har Nahra El Ghazi RL Rah Fire Bask Brass Tsanar MHR Nobility EE Msindependence Miss Wisdom

MHR Nobility IXL Noble Express RY Fire Ghazi Brassmis

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LEADING OWNER OF AEPA WINNERS

Proudly owned by Conway Arabians, Lori & Peter Conway | ConwayArabians.com Multi-Futurity Program Nominated | For breeding information call Lori Conway at 507.202.4440 Standing at Kiesner Training | Louisville, KY | KiesnerTraining.com

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. Our program is ever evolving with a long-term plan to continue creating this vision of perfection that we both have in our heads. Our goals are lofty, but we are dedicated and diligently working to pursue our dreams.It means we have to keep working at having great mares that meet all our goals and stallions that will carry the torch for generations to come. National Champion Coltrane, at just 7 years of age, is already making a significant contribution to our program, as well as to others who have bred to him. A step back a couple decades was our purchase of all the *El Ghazi semen. We have three incredible fillies by him who will have a future in our broodmare band as soon as they come of age. We have another piece of the breeding puzzle with a couple other young studs we own: Rightful Heir CA and a new purchase, CSP Rolling Stone. With all this stallion power and the proof that Coltrane is the real deal, we are excited for our future English endeavors.

LORI & PETER CONWAY CONWAY ARABIANS CHATFIELD, MN

When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? There is definitely not one thing that says if I have “X”, it will be an English horse. It takes a couple “X’s” to be checked off and in no particular order, our list:

1. Long, upright neck with a good “hinge” at the poll. 2. Good shoulder with a lot of depth from point of shoulder to the heart girth. 3. Front legs set out in front of them with long forearms and short cannons with strong pasterns and good feet. 4. A good “set” to the hind leg so they can drive from behind and carry themselves. 5. Short back and strong hindquarter with a high, straight tail. 6. Beautiful face. Big dark eyes and a good set to the mouth to wear two bits. 7. Attitude. Without trainability and work ethic, it doesn’t matter how well they are conformed. The opposite is also true, a good attitude can overcome a few conformational weaknesses. 8. Pedigree. There are very few freaks of nature and with selective breeding, success is easier to obtain. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? Our foals are normally born between April and July, so we are in no rush to start any of them until their 3-year-old year. Until you get them going, you don’t know who are going to

come along easy and fast or require a more methodical, time consuming process to develop into good citizens. The 3-yearold futurities have never been a priority for our program. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? It would be interesting to look at the statistics and see just how many 6-year-olds vs. 5-year-olds are entered and shown in the class. Of those, how many of the 6-year-olds are winning over the 5-year-olds and what percentage are making it into the top placings of the class. For our program, it works well to have it for 5- and 6-year-olds. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? It sounds like it would be fun and gets our competitive juices flowing, but the reality is that it would not work that well in the Arabian breed in our opinion. Having Grand Championships like the Morgans and Saddlebreds, would take a re-vamping of our class structures and our mind set of being a blue ribbon winner in a class and not a National Champion unless you won the Grand Championship, would not sit well with most people.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We are a full-service center, from the breeding, to raising, to training, to marketing and showing of horses, and even in some cases, the retiring of horses. Ashton handles all the books and communications for the breedings to the five stallions we stand and 200 mares or so a year that are bred. Ashton and I, along with John and Leah Beth Golladay train, every one of us a National Champion Open competitor and proud of it! When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We look for quality, high necks, short backs, rear ends that are lower than the shoulders, straight legs, and balanced motion. Usually the pedigree tells us ahead of time whether they will be trainable or not. Being trainable is key; if you don’t have a trainable horse but have all the other qualities, you probably still don’t have much. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We start all of our late 2-year-olds when we come back from Nationals. You can usually tell early on how strong they are and whether or not they will be mentally or physically ready to compete as a 3-year-old. Most are not ready. Sometimes clients will get disappointed if they don’t show as 3-yearolds but we don’t see at it as a negative. Some of our very best horses did not show as 3-year-olds. If selling is the goal, often times the earlier you show the better, but we will let that 3-year-old tell us when it is ready. That’s the only rule: that they stay happy, not grumpy or irritated. The ears, the tail and symmetry of movement are telltale signs if things are going good or bad. At the first sign of any of those things going in the wrong direction, we back off immediately. I believe if you go too far with a 3-year-old, it is hard to recover. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? People have been talking about this for a few years now and there are two sides. Some people want the horses in the

JOEL & ASHTON KIESNER KIESNER TRAINING LOUISVILLE, TN

arena faster with their amateurs so that they can sell them. I personally feel that it’s not in the best interest of most horses to do that. If it comes down to making money or taking care of the horses, I will always come down on the side of the horse. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I’m in favor of it. I feel like that is largely what the Jackpot classes are, so maybe the question is, should just the winners of the different age divisions come back and not have to go through sections, which I am also in favor of. It eliminates cuts. There would be a lot of choices and it would seem implausible to show in the country division, then Jackpot, and then the Grand Championship, but in principle, I like it.

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JK Heiristocracy+/

Afires Heir x VTM Pistachia U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPION PLEASURE DRIVING Proudly owned by Deborah Pearson Shown by Jessica Clinton

GSF Insider

Afires Heir x PWA Tusea U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPION AEPA $100,000 SADDLE SEAT FUTURITY Proudly owned by Kim Munro Shown by Shawn Rooker

Heirs Noble Love

Afires Heir x Noble Aphroditie U.S. NATIONAL UNANIMOUS CHAMPION ENGLISH PLEASURE Proudly owned by Karlton Jackson Shown by Joel Kiesner

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Nobles Heir

Afires Heir x Noble Aphroditie U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPION PARK AAOTR Proudly owned by Kathy Shippee & Emily Shippee Sideri Shown by Emily Shippee Sideri

Movin On Heir WA Afires Heir x The Way She Moves+ U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPION ENGLISH PLEASURE AAOTR Proudly owned by Bradley Marlow & Dr. Joseph Kinnarney Shown by Dr. Joseph Kinnarney

Majestic Heir

Afires Heir x Ritida U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPION H/A ENGLISH PLEASURE FUTURITY Proudly owned Kathy Shippee & Emily Shippee Sideri Shown by Joel Kiesner

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1 1) Royal Style (VJ Royal Heir x Captivating Style) 2) Man Of Steel (VJ Royal Heir x DA Lady Tiffany) 3) Royal Heiress SOF (VJ Royal Heir x BL Miss Chips)

4) FS Mac Ximilion (VJ Royal Heir x Mac Nificence Afire)

5) Hello Kitty CCF (VJ Royal Heir x Mz Kitty) 6) Royalz (VJ Royal Heir x Brown Eyed Girlz)

Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. I am a small breeder who owns breeding stallions and breeds based on pedigrees, as well as looking at each individual’s conformation, disposition, work ethic and talent of the two I’m considering breeding. I love breeding for beauty as well as talent and athleticism. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? When I look at a young prospect, I usually look at how their neck comes out of the shoulder, as well as the poll of their neck. I also look at their length of back relative to their length of leg and look for a nice hip. Of course, good legs and feet as well. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? I start mine based on physical and mental maturity. They aren’t shown if they aren’t physically and mentally ready and I usually allow my trainers to make that determination. I send the young horses that I feel are ready to training at the end of their 2-year/beginning 3-year-old year. They are evaluated throughout their entire training period.

KELLI AGUIRRE

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? In the English division, I do not feel that 4-year-olds are ready to go into classes with amateurs. Of course, there are a few amateurs that are the caliber of many trainers, but they are the exception, not the rule. I like for my babies to get a solid and successful, confident view of the show ring and that is for a trainer to give them, not an amateur. I want my babies to have a successful, happy life and show career, and that happens when they are solid in their knowledge of their jobs. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think a grand championship for the country and English divisions would be an awesome competitive class!

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SOUTHERN OAKS FARM JUPITER, FL

HA English Pleasure futurity

Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We started with recreating my Aunt’s breeding program, breeding multi-Champion Bask daughters. We have chosen mares that have either shown in the English discipline or have multi-generational English producers in their pedigrees. We bred U.S. National Champion HA Toskcan Sun, whose granddam is out of my Aunt’s breeding program. We then breed Toskcan to our mares very successfully. Our first foal crop produced the U.S. National Champion HA California Sage.

MICHELLE HARRIS HARRIS ARABIANS / STACHOWSKI FARM

We have also started breeding Toskcan daughters to outside stallions. We are very excited to see the great quality they produce.

TEMECUL A, CA

We strive to produce great temperaments above all, which allow them to be great partners, whether at home or in the show ring! When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? High set shapely necks, nice slope to the shoulder, strong hip. Of course, beauty, but not above the other qualities. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? I start them as a 3-year-old, however, some are physically or mentally to immature, so we start them and they go back to the pasture to grow up. Our current system doesn’t have a country division for the 4-year-old, only the AEPA for English Pleasure; something we really are needing to change so the 4-yearold country pleasure horse doesn’t get ready for the 3-yearold Futurity and then has nothing to show in during their 4-year-old year. We should either move the 3-year-old Futurity back to 4-year-olds, or have it open to both years or make another class.

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I believe the class should be for 6-year-olds, and their 5th year should be their Junior horse year. I don’t like the idea of a 4-year-old in a Maturity. They aren’t mature enough physically/mentally for most amateurs. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think a Grand Championship would be very exciting, but I don’t believe a Futurity horse should be competing with an aged horse.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We are a small Arabian and Half-Arabian breeding farm in the foothills of the Berkshire mountains in Northwest Connecticut. We breed for athleticism, beauty and tractable temperaments. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We start at the feet and legs, the shoulder, back and hip with good hock placement. We look at how the neck is tied into the shoulder and comes up through the wither. We look for a nicely shaped neck and throat latch and a beautiful Arabian head with well-shaped, tipped in ears. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We start long lining mature 2-year-olds; progressing to saddle work with 3-year-olds. Depending on the horse, we start them at age three. As for showing 3- or 4-year-olds, we feel it depends on the individual and the way they’re coming along in their training. We look to evaluate each individual and then develop an appropriate training schedule.

RAE PAIGE SCHWARZ

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I think it’s the right thing to not have 4-year-olds participating in the futurities. Many 4-year-olds are just not mature enough to compete at this level and at the intensity of the futurity classes. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? Sounds exciting and fun for all ages!

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QUARRY HILL FARM L AKEVILLE, CT

A PEDIGREE OF MOTION AND BEAUTY

2019 SCOTTSDALE UNANIMOUS CHAMPION ARABIAN ENGLISH PLEASURE with Jim Stachowski

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Standing at Stachowski Farm | Owned by DELSAN Arabians, LLC Mantua, OH | Tel: 330-274-2494 | info@stachowski.com

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. My daughter, Morgan Leigh Runyon, and I have shown horses in the English discipline for many years. This past February, we embarked on a great new adventure with the purchase of the stallion Fire and Goldd, by Afire Bey V out of Brassmis. Morgan’s current show string includes one of his sons, Goldd Standard (out of Vee Gates, by Majesteit) whom she shows in country English pleasure, native costume and halter. “Digger” was Reserve National Champion last year in the Open and AOTH Saddle/Pleasure Type. She also has Get Rhythmn BF, who has many national and regional titles to his name in English pleasure, park and native costume. Recently Morgan purchased several of Fire and Goldd’s youngsters who are just beginning their training and showing tons of promise. So, our program is based primarily on Fire and Goldd and his offspring because they are talented, trainable and gorgeous and they have the best personalities ever. We are focused on producing exceptional individuals who are amateur-friendly because we believe that amateurs are the backbone of our industry. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We look for a Digger! Obviously, a horse with all the right parts in all the right places has a much easier time bridling up and striding under himself, which makes him easier to train and less prone to musculoskeletal problems. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? That’s a case-by-case decision. Not every horse will be ready to start at the same time. So much depends on their growth rate and emotional maturity. We don’t push our youngsters. We start slow, with a lot of ground work, and see how they progress. If, and only if, they are really ready, would we show them at three. The physical and mental pressure of showing at such a young age isn’t necessarily a recipe for longevity in the show ring.

RENEE PELZMAN HOLLY HILL FARMS LLC OCAL A, FL

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? Once in a while, you will come across an individual who is really ready for an amateur to show at age four, but in the English division, that’s the exception, not the rule. We are fine with the Maturity classes being for the “older youngsters.” What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? Our horses have enough going on as it is, with multiple cuts and multiple divisions. So, I like the idea in theory, but as a practical matter, it isn’t always fair to the horses that go so many times in one week. We always prioritize our horses’ health over the chance to win another ribbon.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We are a small boutique breeder specializing in quality English horses with type and athleticism. We like to think outside the box, incorporating our ranch-owned stallion Nicklebey Berry into our program, while also breeding to some of the finest in the Arabian horse industry. It’s a family affair; we get together and evaluate our foals and then decide who the mare should be bred back to. It’s a lifetime of dedication which takes endless hours of patience (which I don’t have, lol!). When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We usually seriously look at the foals when they are about two weeks old. In our opinion and experience, you can see how they have unfolded and come together. We like a long, upright neck and a good hind leg set under the hip and not wobbly hocks. The industry as a whole has focused so much on the front ends of our horses, we have lost sight of some of the finer most important details, eyes and ears. We want a horse with expression and tippy ears and we want an effortless forward moving horse with precise movement and good tail carriage! When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We personally are not very interested in showing a 3-yearold unless we want to market one. You really need to have a mature, confident individual that can mentally and physically withstand the pressure. We do feel the HalfArabians are more likely to have longevity if shown as a 3-year-old, but it’s just not necessarily our thing. We would be much more likely to show as a 4-year-old.

JILL SHERMAN SHERMAN RANCH PLEASANTON, CA

What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I’m old … I like 5- and 6-year-olds. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think it would add a little pizzazz, but I think the discipline should change every year, so it’s diverse and interesting for everyone.

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LAURA SHAFFER What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I think that it might be nice to have the Maturity classes open to 4-year-olds also. If I have a 4-year-old, I wouldn’t really have any classes that I, as an amateur, can show in until it’s 5. The age division and jackpot classes would be too deep and difficult for a 4-year-old to compete in. This would create a better chance for an amateur to compete on a 4-year-old. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think that it is a great idea as long as there would still be a championship named for the age division. It is an opportunity to ride in another class if the rider chooses to do so. If it was in lieu of a championship, say the winner of an age division was pinned 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., and then had to show back in the Grand Championship class for a title, I would not be in favor of that scenario.

TRAINERS

CARMELLE & SHAWN ROOKER ROOKER TRAINING STABLES

ROOKERS

FENTON, MI

Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. Our breeding program started with the purchase of AA Apollo Bey as a 3-year-old back in 1989. We then bred Apollopalooza, a 6-time National Champion English and Park horse. Despite losing Palooza at the young age of 10, his legacy has lived on through his get and now, grand-get. At Rooker Training Stable, we are focused on continuing our own breeding program, as well as advising our clients to breed pretty and athletic horses that can excel in the saddle seat discipline. Once those horses are old enough to enter our training barn, we ensure that each horse receives a solid foundation, enabling it to succeed in any discipline. Our approach to starting young horses has made Rooker Training Stable a go-to place to find up-andcoming superstars that can be competitive in the open and amateur divisions. As our young horses find new owners, we are able to continue breeding the highest quality of Arabian and Half-Arabian performance horses. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? We look for horses that have good form to function, starting from the ground up. We want to see good feet and straight legs first and foremost. We look for horses that are built square, meaning they have a short back, a strong hind end, and a laid-back shoulder. On their face, we look for big expressive eyes and pretty ears. The highest quality of motion and a long upright neck are essential in English pleasure horses.

When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We start all of our young horses in the fall of their 2-year-old year. The majority of them will stay in training for the duration of their 3-year-old year. Each individual horse is different. They progress at different speeds and at different times. They tell us when they are confident enough and fit enough to go show as a 3-year-old. The horses that don’t make the 3-year-old futurity classes will be prepared to show as a 4-year-old. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? There are not many horses that are mentally and physically ready to be shown by an amatuer as a 4-year-old. However, it would be nice for the few that are ready, to be able to show against other young horses without having to go through the process of qualifying for a National class. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? The way the schedule is laid out right now, there are plenty of classes for the horses to compete in. We are not opposed to the idea of grand championships as long as they are set up in a way that it is not too many classes for our performance horses to handle.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. My husband and I are small breeders with the goal of producing saddle seat horses that I want to show. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? What everyone is looking for... upright neck, short back, and a lot of slope for shoulder, hip angle and pasterns. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? It really depends on the horse but the majority of ours are “started” at the end of their 2-year-old year. Before we send them to Rookers, they learn to lunge, wear leather and long line. Some of them are backed. Thereafter, they tell us the pace that they can handle. We don’t show many 3-year-olds, but again, it really depends upon the individual. Some should wait until their 4-year-old year. The first show that GSF Insider ever went to was U.S. Nationals in 2018 as a 4-year-old and she won the AEPA Saddle Seat Futurity class her first time showing. We made a conscious decision in 2017 not to show her as a 3-year-old, and it paid off. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I actually am in favor of this and I believe it’s better for the horses. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think this works well in other breeds, but don’t support it for ours.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. Wiloma Plantationâ€™s breeding program focuses on English performance horses for both purebreds and Half-Arabians. We were a 2018 APAHA Breeder of the Year finalist for horses we bred sired by WP Corporate Image, the 2018 Canadian National English Pleasure Champion, while his first foal, WP Fashionista, was Canadian National English Pleasure Junior Champion. His second foal, WP Corporate America, was National Champion English Pleasure Futurity and 2018 U.S. Reserve National Champion English Pleasure Jr. Horse. Wiloma is breeding horses using Polish and Crabbet lines that have proven themselves over time. Wiloma also has a unique HalfArabian program blending Saddlebreds, Dutch Harness horses and Hackneys for superior mares to breed back to WP Corporate Image. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? Wiloma is breeding horses with extreme upright necks that are flexible and with great throat latches. This has to be backed up by short backs, straight legs and very strong hocks. The high tail carriage of the Arabian is important as well. The next criteria is trainability; they have to want to do it. This is what we try to achieve when breeding, because this is what it takes to be competitive. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? For a special horse, maybe start them as a late 2-year-old to show as a futurity horse, but Wiloma usually starts them as a late 3-year-olds. We listen closely to our trainers, but we make the final decision on what we think is best for the horse. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I am fine with that. Most people who have a really nice horse are thinking of the AEPA for a 4-year-old. In 2017,

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FINCASTLE, VA

Wiloma bred two of the top four horses in the AEPA, both sired by WP Corporate Image. The Maturity gives options for owners with their young horses beyond their 4-year-old year. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I assume you are talking about the amateur division. I think that is a terrific idea. It would really point out who is the best in each of these divisions. I also think that the open Grand Championship classes should have no more than 10 horses who are competing for Champion and Reserve Champion, so everyone including the judges are not overwhelmed.

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. My family and I have been involved with the Arabian breed for the last 21 years and started a small breeding program in 2014. Breeding some of our own babies has added a new element to the sport for me and it’s been a true joy to watch them develop and see their potential. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? I feel that each horse is different when it comes to training. The Stachowski team has done a wonderful job at training our horses and letting the horse set the pace. When it comes to showing, I have had horses in the past that were ready to show as a 4-year-old and others that weren’t ready until they were five. I tend to be more on the cautious side of things and like waiting until they are five, simply for developmental purposes. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I think it would be great if the Maturity was open to 4-, 5- and 6-year-olds.

KATHERINE KIRBY

What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? I think that’s an interesting idea. A fun spin on things!

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In men’s saddle seat attire, what is a current trend you are seeing? Both trainers and amateur men suits are very conservative with ties, shirts and vests being the only fashion statement. When selecting their suits, durability of the fabric would be the first criteria, especially for trainers. We also like to suggest two pairs of pants for every coat as they take a beating going from horse to horse at a show. In ladies’ attire, there seems to be a big push toward solid suits again. What advice would you give when on the fence about a day coat vs. saddle suit? Everyone should have a suit in their show wardrobe, it is a standard and never goes out of style. The contrasting coats are an additional way to expand the ladies show attire. Everyone loves the option of a coat as it is more fun and can be fashion forward for both the exhibitor and the audience. Showing horses is a wonderful sport and clothing and fashion are something that might help attract new clients to the sport. When taking your suit out for the first time of a new season and trying it on, what should one consider regarding fit? Are your clothes in good repair and current to the new fabrics continually available? How is the fit? Youth riders grow, do not wait until the week before the show to try clothing on your child; frequently, things do not fit in length or circumference. Refresh your garments for a new season with a new shirt, vest and tie if your clothing meets your standards of look and fit, otherwise, pass it along to another rider. When it comes to dry cleaning saddle seat attire, what advice do you have? Take it only to a reputable dry cleaner and give them some guidelines. Dry clean only, no washing; even your satin or silk shirts must be dry cleaned. Coats in silk, satin or delicate fabrics should be cleaned and pressed on delicate temps and not pressed hard and too hot. Pants should have the dry mud cleaned off before you give them to a cleaner, do this with a towel. Your knee patches are ultrasuede and can be dry cleaned normally, they are NOT leather, make sure they know this, or they may put them in a leather cycle which is not good for wool. Dry clean after every horse show as sweat and grooming products can lift the color out of the fabric and anything sticky on your saddle and pants are deadly to your

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fabric. Your jod pants must have a center crease. Many times we see no crease or pressing, with the bottoms not even and lopsided which looks bad in the stirrup. Remove the pant straps before sending to the cleaners, they will not dry clean well, wipe them with a wet cloth. Regarding accessories in the show arena, what do you suggest? Men prefer to make their fashion statements with the shirt, vest, tie and a unique pocket square. Personal preference reigns for the ladies as they are typically more fashion conscious and love the flexibility of choices for shirts, ties and vests. Jewelry is a matter of taste, but simplicity is always the best rule of attire. If considering selling your saddle suit, where can you do so and how do you know what is the best price? Social Media is the best form with photos and sizes. Pricing is up to the individual and should be relevant to the age, condition and alterability. What do you say to someone who is purchasing a custom suit for the first time? Start with a suit, everyone needs a suit in their wardrobe, male or female. A color that will go on any horse and all divisions is a timeless piece that will take them through the show season and be a timeless piece from which to build!

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Please share with our readers, some insight into your program. We work hard, try to buy better horses, old and young, treat our customers fairly, keep an open mind and try to keep improving each year. Last time I checked, I think almost everyone in our industry does that. When looking at a young prospect, what do you look for regarding conformation? Tall, soft neck, laid back shoulder, good legs and feet, hind legs that are angular and not camped out, and overall quality motion and appearance. When do you feel is the best time to start a Saddle Seat prospect and how do you determine if you will show them as a 3- vs. 4-year-old? We normally start horses when they are coming 3 years of age; I think the horses determine when you will show them. Horses with different pedigrees and attitudes mature and train at different paces. We try to start them all the same, and based on their strength, maturity and the customers goals, try to evaluate how quickly or slowly to bring one along. What are your thoughts on the Maturity classes being for 5- and 6-year-olds, and not for 4-year-olds? I’ve always thought you should be able to show 4-, 5- or 6-year-olds, but you can only show them two years. I, however, have no problem at all with the current format. What are your thoughts on a grand championship for the Country and English divisions, where all age divisions would come back and show against each other? Don’t we already have a lot of classes?

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RYAN STRAND LIBERTY MEADOWS TRAINING CENTER BUCYRUS, KS

2018 National Saddle Seat Leaders Includes U.S., Canadian and Youth National English Champion and Reserve wins. AEPA Saddle Seat Futurity, English Pleasure, Country English, and Park Horse classes. Open and amateur/junior classes only.

OVERALL ARABIAN & HALF-ARABIAN LEADING HORSES by number of wins

Owner

1. Bugzy Malone

3 championships

Peter Marsh

2. Drambuie Louie

1 championship, 2 reserves

Glenn or Kelly Gilbert

SD Graceland

3. Deucez Wild CCF

4. Big And Rich SCA CP Manifesto

Davinci Reflection WA Helluva Storm LR

Manhattan Aflame DCR MR Mayhem Noble Finery

ROL In The Fastlane SF Top Shelf

WP Fashionista

3 championships 3 reserves

2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships

Lindsay O’Reilly French Morgan Curtis Joseph Burich

Kirby Arabians LLC

Kendyl Peters Arabians, Inc. Connor Koch

Rob & Elizabeth Haar Connor Koch

Diane Comeau

Riley-Kate Bancroft Lian Oteiza

Bella Cavallo Stables LLC

ARABIAN LEADING HORSES by number of wins

Owner

1. SD Graceland

3 championships

Lindsay O’Reilly French

CP Manifesto

2 championships

Kirby Arabians LLC

2. Big And Rich SCA MR Mayhem Noble Finery

WP Fashionista

3. Afires Rejoice

Amplifire SAH Corleone

Movin On Heir WA Prosuasion

RGT Heirs Johnny

Supreme Sensation SMP

2 championships 2 championships 2 championships 2 championships

1 championship, 1 reserve

1 championship, 1 reserve 1 championship, 1 reserve 1 championship, 1 reserve 1 championship, 1 reserve 1 championship, 1 reserve

1 championship, 1 reserve

Joseph Burich Connor Koch

Diane Comeau

Bella Cavallo Stables LLC Conway Arabians, Inc. Silver Aspen Ranch Shelby Preston

Joseph Kinnarney/Bradley Marlow Laura & Nora Shaffer Grace Hertz

Alpert Arabians LLC

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HALF-ARABIAN LEADING HORSES by number of wins

Owner

1. Bugzy Malone

3 championships

3. Deucez Wild CCF

3 reserves

Morgan Curtis

2 championships

Connor Koch

2. Drambuie Louie

Peter Marsh

1 championship, 2 reserves

4. Davinci Reflection WA

Glenn or Kelly Gilbert

2 championships

Helluva Storm LR

Manhattan Aflame DCR

Kendyl Peters Arabians, Inc.

2 championships

ROL In The Fastlane

Rob & Elizabeth Haar

2 championships

SF Top Shelf

Riley-Kate Bancroft

2 championships

5. Carrie Bradshaw

Lian Oteiza

1 championship, 1 reserve

Vicki Humphrey

Double Or Nuttin

1 championship, 1 reserve

Linda Musso

Miss Central Park

1 championship, 1 reserve

CSP Rock On

1 championship, 1 reserve

GSF Alejandro

Natalie Lindmark

1 championship, 1 reserve

Sal Mineo BF

Bill Castro

Penny or Laura Carrington

1 championship, 1 reserve

Toi Sensation CRF

Boisvert Farms LLC

1 championship, 1 reserve

KGB Texas Marketing/Public Relations, Inc.

OVERALL LEADING ARABIAN SIRES by number of winning get

by number of wins

1. Afire Bey V

3. Baske Afire

2. Afires Heir

4. IXL Noble Express

2. Afires Heir

SF Aftershoc

4. IXL Noble Express

5. Apollopalooza Black Daniels

7. SF Specs Shocwave

5. Apollopalooza

6. Black Daniels

SF Aftershoc

1. Afires Heir

3. IXL Noble Express

6. Baske Afire

5. Apollopalooza SF Specs Shocwave

Vegaz

4 3

2. Afire Bey V

4. Apollopalooza 5. Black Daniels Vegaz

6. SF Specs Shocwave

12 6 5 5

2. Jessica Clinton Joel Kiesner

Jonathan Ramsay

3. Jason Krohn

John Golladay

5. Dalton Budd

WP Corporate Image 3

6. Gabe DeSoto

VCP Magnifire

2. Afire Bey V

3. SF Aftershoc

1. Matthew Siemon

7. Baske Afire

2. Baske Afire

by number of winners

4. James Stachowski

by number of Half-Arabian wins

Top Ten included

by number of Half-Arabian winning get

1. Afire Bey V

OVERALL LEADING OPEN TRAINERS

by number of Arabian wins

4. Black Daniels

8. SF Specs Shocwave

by number of Arabian winning get 9

7. VCP Magnifire

LEADING ARABIAN SIRES

2. Afire Bey V

VCP Magnifire

Vegaz

6. Vegaz

1. Baske Afire

3. SF Aftershoc

4. Vegaz

10 4

James Lowe

Laura Rodel

Shawn Rooker Joshua Shino

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OVERALL LEADING OWNERS by number of horses

1. 6D Ranch Ltd.

Amazing Horse Woman LLC Cedar Ridge Arabians Elizabeth Haar

Starline Arabians LLC

2. Boisvert Farms LLC

Penny and Laura Carrington

Lindsay O’Reilly French

3 3

Conway Arabians, Inc.

Vicki Humphrey

Kathy & Emily Shippee

ARABIAN LEADING OWNERS

HALF-ARABIAN LEADING OWNERS

by number of horses

3 3

1. Cedar Ridge Arabians

1. 6D Ranch Ltd.

2. Amazing Horse Woman LLC

3. Amazing Horse Woman LLC

Lori Foster

Penny and Laura Carrington

Elizabeth Haar

Conway Arabians, Inc.

Bella Cavallo Stables LLC Lindsay O’Reilly French Kirby Arabians LLC Deborah Pearson

3 2 2 2

2. Starline Arabians LLC Boisvert Farms LLC

Vicki Humphrey

Kathy & Emily Shippee

3 2 2 2 2

OVERALL LEADING BREEDERS by number of horses

1. Cedar Ridge Arabians

4. Live Oak Arabians, Inc.

2. Vicki Humphrey

5. 6D Ranch Ltd.

Laura Gault

Marty Shea

3. Boisvert Farms LLC

Nick and Juliet Carden Prestige Farms LLC Lindsay Rinehart

5 5 5

Maroon Fire Arabians, Inc. Burrline LLC Robin Porter

Springwater Farms Arabians LLC

ARABIAN LEADING BREEDERS

HALF-ARABIAN LEADING BREEDERS

by number of horses

1. Nick and Juliet Carden Cedar Ridge Arabians

Maroon Fire Arabians, Inc.

2. Robin Porter

Prestige Farms LLC

Lindsay Rinehart Marty Shea

4 4 4

3 3

1. Vicki Humphrey

2. Boisvert Farms LLC

Live Oak Arabians, Inc. Marty Shea

3. Burrline LLC

Cedar Ridge Arabians

Springwater Farms Arabians LLC

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